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Old 11-09-2011, 07:30 AM
 
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So it is the boomer's fault if their bank went bust, their house is not worth what is owed and their 401 account tanked in 2007? Not really.
Sure is. BB are the one scamming each other out of money on Wall Street and running crony politics in Washington. BB have a vote and they voted in criminals in Washington. Now let them reap the consequences for their actions, they deserve no SS bailout.
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Old 11-09-2011, 07:31 AM
 
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I would love to see what happens if ss were stopped tomorrow. There would be a massive desent on Washington DC by millions of seniors with pichforks and torches.The good ole boy's from the beltway would be hung from the highest tree. Don't touch SS, I paid into it, I expect it back! If you wanna cut spending, cut the wasteful programs that have been added over the years including the defense budget.
Your description is probably correct. If you think the OWS movement is big, just drop Social Security and watch what an ORGANIZED movement can do,....and the boomers don't need donations to make the movement successful.

Boomer protests might be good for the economy. Boomers would stay in quality hotels, frequent quality restaurants, and wouldn't have a bunch of drumbeaters to keep everyone awake, and tents marring the neighborhoods. Boomers can be intimidating with their pocketbooks and numbers,...unlike the clueless young'uns dirtying the streets in New York.
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Old 11-09-2011, 07:32 AM
 
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So they were forced, their WHOLE lives, to give money to a system, and now they're out of luck?

How about we cut the true waste first? Like loaning money to administration donors to run useless companies. Or defund the Department of Education.
Yeah defund the Dept of Education only though it accounts for less than 5% of the total budget. Almost 2/3 of the budget comes from SS and medicare socialist payouts. Let's attack the real problem here.
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Old 11-09-2011, 07:33 AM
 
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Interesting. Now conservatives are bashing BB's, while in other threads they are accusing liberals of class warfare
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Old 11-09-2011, 07:34 AM
 
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You young whippersnappers don't have a clue!

You can gripe and moan all you want, but NOTHING is going to happen to the "boomers" who are drawing Social Security. We are strong,...both financially and politically,...have paid into a system for decades,...and will use our political strength to GUARANTEE that the system remains in place until we are all dead. After that, you can have it.

Just wish in one hand hand and spit in the other,.....see which one gets full the fastest.....
And it will be because of your generation America will be in the toilet. Gotta love how the BB promised themselves tons of cushy retirement benefits at the cost of unsustainable debt, tanked the economy for the long foreseeable future, off shored jobs ,and allowed illegal immigration to run amok. Good job.
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Old 11-09-2011, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Medicaid is a state run system to help the disabled and poor people including kids.
Two out of every three dollars spent on Medicaid goes to supporting people who are also covered under Medicare. Except that Medicaid isn't funded via taxes (like an attempt is made for Medicare, although to the effect of only a fraction of the Medicare costs).
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Old 11-09-2011, 07:35 AM
 
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So your comments are not "all about you"?
nope, they aren't. i actually have some interest in the country as a whole being solvent while i'm alive, and after i die.

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Get a clue!! Boomers have paid into the system for decades, and will damn well get what the government contracted to pay.
the government didn't contract to pay you anything.

you paid taxes to support your elders, with no promise of getting anything in return.

this is the same contract i'm involved in. there is no guarantee Medicare and SS will be there for me when I retire, i'm just obligated to pay for the current beneficiaries.

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Money was forcefully taken from us for untold years, and it is ours.
if it was taken from you, it is not yours. that's how taxes work, bub.

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And NO,...I don't give a tinkersdamn about you.
Of course you don't. We already established that you're selfish and greedy, and this is what drives you to oppose reform of Medicare and Social Security.

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Your description is probably correct. If you think the OWS movement is big, just drop Social Security and watch what an ORGANIZED movement can do,....and the boomers don't need donations to make the movement successful.
Y'all already tried that; it was called the Tea Party.
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Old 11-09-2011, 07:37 AM
 
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The Social Security system is an insurance system originally designed to protect the income and spending of elderly people that did or could not protect their savings or investment from a general economic collapse of a crooked banker.

BTW - My bank is solvent, my house is worth far more than the remaining mortgage and my retirement account increased in value in 2997. I worry about the people that were suckered by the financiers.
That's too bad for those people. They were screwed by their fellow peers. Baby boomers run the banks and run Washington politics that allowed corporate malfeasance to go unpunished. BB policies did themselves in, now let them eat the consequences. Their SS handouts should be cut in order to help deal with the problems BB created.
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Old 11-09-2011, 07:39 AM
 
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It is absolutely their fault. If a person doesn't plan well for their future, or if a person doesn't diversify investments, shame on them.

Take responsibility for your own life. Stop asking Uncle Sam to take care of you.
BBs are not asking Uncle Sam for anything that they aren't entitled to. Uncle Sam isn't taking care of BBs that worked and paid into the system, a payment that was not by choice.

You think Uncle Sam is "taking care" of BBs, yet you, the ME generation, wants everything for free. And who would be handing out those "free" gifts to you and who would be funding those gifts??
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Old 11-09-2011, 07:41 AM
 
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BBs are not asking Uncle Sam for anything that they aren't entitled to. Uncle Sam isn't taking care of BBs that worked and paid into the system, a payment that was not by choice.

You think Uncle Sam is "taking care" of BBs, yet you, the ME generation, wants everything for free. And who would be handing out those "free" gifts to you and who would be funding those gifts??
Let's see who exactly is the 'ME' generation here? BB that are demanding trillions in unsustainable debt to fund their socialist SS and medicare payouts or their kids that are going to be the ones that will have to break their backs to pay it?

BB= the REAL 'me' generation that are full of socialists.
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