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Old 11-09-2011, 09:36 PM
 
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I found this interesting in light of the Penn State child abuse/cover up story. Look what happened to this employee, who chose to go beyond her employer and notify the police. Good thing she did.

" An employee of a Missoula mental health center who told police about a client's computer search for child pornography was fired, in part for making the report, according to court records.The client, John Gribble, has been charged with sexually abusing a child after a DVD with photos of nude children was found at his house, the Missoulian reported Wednesday."

Read more: Montana Mental Health Worker Who Reported Child Pornography Fired | Fox News
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:41 PM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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I know right? I was thinking the same thing.

You are damned if you do, and damned if you don't.
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:53 PM
 
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In this case, there is no direct threat to a known child. It is not like the Penn case at all, when the indvidual witnessed specific children being abused.

The employers will have a problem with explaining that she was not fired for this issue.
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Old 11-09-2011, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Evidently three River mental health center thinks sexually abusing and exploiting a child is just fine and dandy as long as you don't know or don't ask about who the victim is. And having a pedophile on your staff is fine, as well. What a warped place.
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Old 11-09-2011, 10:06 PM
 
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In this case, there is no direct threat to a known child. It is not like the Penn case at all, when the indvidual witnessed specific children being abused.

The employers will have a problem with explaining that she was not fired for this issue.
The similarity is that an employee saw something that she felt put children in danger. However, she felt morally responsible and contacted the police. Additional children will not be harmed due to her actions. She was fired, in part for this. Employer does not deny it.

"The affidavit said the woman was concerned about the young daughters of two single mothers for whom Gribble babysit. She relayed those concerns to supervisors, "but the employee couldn't tell me any names," Hennelly said. "In the past, this gentleman babysit kids and we were able to identify the mother and were able to carry out our duty to warn."


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Old 11-09-2011, 10:08 PM
 
Location: Great Falls, Montana
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I found this interesting in light of the Penn State child abuse/cover up story. Look what happened to this employee, who chose to go beyond her employer and notify the police. Good thing she did.

" An employee of a Missoula mental health center who told police about a client's computer search for child pornography was fired, in part for making the report, according to court records.The client, John Gribble, has been charged with sexually abusing a child after a DVD with photos of nude children was found at his house, the Missoulian reported Wednesday."

Read more: Montana Mental Health Worker Who Reported Child Pornography Fired | Fox News
Missoula .. the Berkeley of Montana
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Old 11-10-2011, 12:07 AM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Oh i see, so now we no longer believe in doing the right thing, People like this are a deep deep concern, and a problem for our children.

When we no longer believe in keeping our children safe and doing what is right, we have gone so wrong?
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Old 11-10-2011, 12:16 AM
 
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Legally, she had no duty to report, there was no specific child being harmed. It was an ethical violation on her part, and a breach of client confidentiality.

She saw no child porn. She saw no child being hurt. The client did not verbalize that he was hurting children.

A better plan would have been to discuss this situation in therapy, and ask the client directly if he was having problems, and did he want help. This therapist junped the gun. And made a bad call.

What if a man came to therapy to discuss being sexually attracted to young girls? Should a therapist immediately call the cops on this guy? What crime has he committed? Nothing. There is no law against fantasies about young kids, but it does mean a person needs help, in recognizing this is inappropriate, and how to correct these thoughts, before a criminal act occurs.

Situations like this are why child molesters don't seek help when they start having fantsies, at a stage where no one is hurt. It just needs to be corrected. But to demonize this, makes them secretive, and they start to increase the fantasy without any type of check or balance. Not good.
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Old 11-10-2011, 12:23 AM
 
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Earthla Kitt said it best:

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The thing that hurts, that became anger, was when I realized that if you tell the truth -- in a country that says you're entitled to tell the truth -- you get your face slapped and you get put out of work.
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Old 11-10-2011, 02:14 AM
 
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I know right? I was thinking the same thing.

You are damned if you do, and damned if you don't.
Yep, the authorities get a report of possible suspicious activities and in scenario A question an innocent person about it and they bullying a stand up citizen. In scenario B they do little investigating and the suspect ends up committing a crime down the road and it's their fault they didn't do enough to prevent it.
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