Exposing The Propaganda About Pedophilia

[GAisGreat]

The biggest risk to 'little boys' are white right-wing Christians.

1. Catholic Priests
2. Penn State - VERY right/white VERY Christian area and environment
3. Syracuse - See above
4. Michelle Bachmann's husband
5. Ted Haggard - The evangelical leader dude in Colorado

Just the very nature of the Christian right nazis is all the proof you need they are severly supressing their real feelings.

[LS Jaun]

Originally Posted by GAisGreat

The biggest risk to 'little boys' are white right-wing Christians.

1. Catholic Priests
2. Penn State - VERY right/white VERY Christian area and environment
3. Syracuse - See above
4. Michelle Bachmann's husband
5. Ted Haggard - The evangelical leader dude in Colorado

Just the very nature of the Christian right nazis is all the proof you need they are severly supressing their real feelings.

You know most Catholics are Dems?

[djacques]

Originally Posted by GuyNTexas

The bi-sexual male is a homosexual who may also have relations with women for any number of reasons that may or may not involve sexual attraction.

Yet you stated that you find it impossible to conceive of anyone molesting children for reasons that may not involve sexual attraction.

[nimchimpsky]

Why is this thread still going on?

[GuyNTexas]

Originally Posted by djacques

Yet you stated that you find it impossible to conceive of anyone molesting children for reasons that may not involve sexual attraction.

That's correct.

There is a considerable body of evidence of closeted homosexuals presenting a heterosexual image for a multitude of reasons not involving sexual attraction. Politicians, public figures, those in conservative communities, those employed by conservative corporations .... who's image may be important to their success.

And this makes perfect sense ... though public acceptance of homosexuality has taken on a far more accepting attitude of late, many homosexuals have in the past, and probably still do today, feel the need to conceal their sexual orientation, to avoid the spotlight or anticipated discrimination and isolation. The best disguise being married with children. A classic example is Indiana state senator Phil Hinkly .... an outspoken anti-gay politician who turns out to be .... gay himself. There are countless examples.

On the other hand, I doubt that a person would deem child molestation as helpful to their public image. And the psychological profile of a pedophile suggests that they have uncontrollable sexual drives for intimate contact with their victims .... and go to great lengths to lure ... to gain trust ... to ingratiate themselves to these victims with gifts and special treatment, etc. This is not the profile of the non-sexual child abuser who's anger and rage and upbringing by an abusive parent manifests in their physical or mental abuse of children

I'm really surprised that you find this so difficult to understand?

But if this is just you searching for some sign of hypocrisy in my position ... it is a desperate reach.

[GuyNTexas]

Originally Posted by nimchimpsky

Why is this thread still going on?

Because you don't control what others are allowed to discuss.

There are plenty of treads to entertain you if you don't like this one.

[nimchimpsky]

Originally Posted by GuyNTexas

Because you don't control what others are allowed to discuss.

There are plenty of treads to entertain you if you don't like this one.

I'm not trying to control anyone. I'm just curious, since it seems like no one is getting anywhere. Everyone is already convinced of their opinion and unwilling to change. And of course such disagreements are chock-full of personal insults.

So, what's the point?

[djacques]

Originally Posted by GuyNTexas

On the other hand, I doubt that a person would deem child molestation as helpful to their public image.

Correct, but since they don't intend it to be for public consumption, that's irrelevant.

But if this is just you searching for some sign of hypocrisy in my position ... it is a desperate reach.

Not necessarily hypocrisy, but perhaps conceptual confusion.

[ErroreFatale]

As I am quite expert about the subject, I hope I can bring this old thread to conclusion.

The question "is pedophilia related to heterosexuality or to homosexuality?" has no sense, because pedophilia is simply related with pedophilia.

A Penile plethysmography test was executed with a simple of more than 2000 men.
The question of the study was "What is sexual orientation?".

Sexual Attraction to Others: A Comparison of Two Models of Alloerotic Responding in Men - Springer

Although most persons will say that sexual orientation is an attraction towards a gender, this study proved that this idea is wrong.

Infact, the study came to the conclusion that sexual orientation in humans is an attraction towards a human morfology (physical qualities).

In adults, the morfology is primarily related to the gender.
In children, the morfology is primarily related to the age.

The reason is in sexual differentiation.

"Sexual differentiation is the process of development of the differences between males and females from an undifferentiated zygote. As male and female individuals develop from zygotes into fetuses, into infants, children, adolescents, and eventually into adults, sex and gender differences at many levels develop: genes, chromosomes, gonads, hormones, anatomy, and psyche."

Sexual differentiation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Each human, male or female, is identical at the first stage of pregnancy: sexual differentiation starts during pregnancy, and continues until adulthood, where the sexual dimorphism reaches the maximal level.

This means that, more adult is a person, more his/her morfology is related to gender. Less adult is a person, more his/her morfology is related to age.

If we speak about pedophilia, we are speaking about the attraction to prepubescent children.
The appearance of a prepubescent child is primarily related to the age, and infact a prepubescent boy is very different from an adult male. He looks more like a prepubescent girl.

I know I am speaking about theory. We will go to the practice now.

What did the researches exactly do?
They performed a Penile plethysmography test on more than 2000 men, and then they label them in 6 categories:

- Heterosexual teleiophiles, primarily attracted to adult females
- Homosexual teleiophiles, primarily attracted to adult males

- Heterosexual hebephiles, primarily attracted to pubescent males
- Homosexual hebephiles, primarily attracted to pubescent males

- Heterosexual pedophiles, primarily attracted to prepubescent girl
- Homosexual pedophiles, primarily attracted to prepubescent boys

Their goal was to understand how different persons of different orientations react to non-prefered categories of persons, so that they were able to understand the logic, the mechanism, of sexual orientation in humans.

See the diagram below




As you can see, homosexual pedophiles have an attraction towards prepubescent girls which is greater than the attraction they have towards adult males.
The statement that homosexual pedophilia is related to homosexual teleiophilia is therefore false. Infact, homosexual pedophilia is primarily related to heterosexual pedophilia.
Heterosexual pedophiles and homosexual pedophiles have very similar sexual preferences: they like about the same human morfology.
On the other hand, morfological preference of homosexual pedophiles and homosexual teleiophiles is very dissimilar.
Compare the two has no sense.

Categories "heterosexual" and "homosexual" were invented by humans: it's not the way that sexual orientation works. They can be valid categories when we speak about teleiophilia, since in adults the morfology is primarily related to gender.
But in general, you can't categorize sexual orientation in in this way: the hypotesis that sexual orientation is a preference for a gender was proved to be false by this study.

p.s.: it is true that many homosexual pedophiles prefer women when it comes to adult. One thing that pedophiles in general like of children is their smooth skin. It is a quality they can't find in adult males, but in females in general yes.
This confirms an other time that sexual orientation in humans is a preference for some physical qualities, not for a gender.