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Old 11-17-2011, 03:31 PM
 
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Q: What do we want?

A: (shrug)

Q: When do we want it?

A: NOW!
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Old 11-17-2011, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Is that it? Do they know that??
It's not a negotiation. They just go on for years like the Senate. When the situation is corrected things return to normal
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Old 11-17-2011, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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It's like Pelosi (patriarch of OWS) saying "we won't know what's in the bill until we pass it".

OWS -- "we won't know what we want until we get it!"
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Old 11-17-2011, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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OCCUPY should demand an Audit of The Federal Reserve and an end to their economic reign of terror. This privately owned International Bank, that is the most powerful and secretive institution in our country, is the source of all crashes and recessions since it infiltrated our government in 1913.

This is the longest period in American history that the people have let a private Central Bank control the country. Upon a preliminary look into the Fed's activities, 18 current and former Chairmen were found to have connections to companies and banks that received "Bailout" Money.

Bank of North America 1782-1785
First Bank of The United States 1791-1811
Second Bank of The United States 1816-1836
The Federal Reserve 1913-When will Americans wake up?
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Old 11-17-2011, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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these folks arent commies:

"Ban the private ownership of land"

LOL
This is one person.

LOL
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Old 11-17-2011, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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OCCUPY should demand an Audit of The Federal Reserve and an end to their economic reign of terror. This privately owned International Bank, that is the most powerful and secretive institution in our country, is the source of all crashes and recessions since it infiltrated our government in 1913.

This is the longest period in American history that the people have let a private Central Bank control the country. Upon a preliminary look into the Fed's activities, 18 current and former Chairmen were found to have connections to companies and banks that received "Bailout" Money.

Bank of North America 1782-1785
First Bank of The United States 1791-1811
Second Bank of The United States 1816-1836
The Federal Reserve 1913-When will Americans wake up?
This I agree with. If only the Occupiers didn't break laws and civic codes and ordinances. If only they didn't allow a few whackos to infiltrate and therefore "represent them" in the media (though I argue those are real Occupiers, that in their hearts they are all whackos..) If only they demonstrated the right way, the legal and considerate way, I may not be so hard on them.
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Old 11-17-2011, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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from the article:
This content is user submitted and not an official statement
Then why did they post it publicly on their site and in such a prominent position? Do they not have content reviewers and editors?
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Old 11-17-2011, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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1. Pass a bill to reinstate Glass-Steagall, a safeguard separating banks' commercial lending and investment operations. "Its repeal in 1999 is considered the major cause of the global financial meltdown of 2008-09," the group states.
2. Repeal Bush-era tax cuts.
3. Prosecute "the Wall Street criminals who clearly broke the law and helped cause the 2008 financial crisis."
4. Overturn a 2010 Supreme Court decision that allows corporations "to contribute unlimited amounts of money to campaigns
5. Pass the Warren Buffett rule on fair taxation, close corporate tax loopholes, prohibit hiding funds offshore.
6. Give the Securities and Exchange Commission stricter regulatory power, strengthen the Consumer Protection Bureau and help victims of predatory lending whose home loans have been foreclosed.
7. Take steps to limit the influence of lobbyists and eliminate the practice of lobbyists writing legislation.
8. Eliminate (the) right of former government regulators to work for corporations or industries they once regulated.
9. Eliminate corporate personhood.
10. Insist the Federal Elections Commission "ensure that political candidates are given equal time for free at reasonable intervals during campaign season."
11. Pass the Fair Elections Now Act.
12. Forgive student debt.
Great!! You finally have a message!! Now take this to your Representatives and Senators. If they don't agree, vote them out and either put in new ones, or start a third party, or do what the Tea Party attempted and take over an already existing party.

And while you don't have the money to compete with corporations and lobbyists for air time and other conventional means of advertising and campaigning in order to convince the hearts and minds of a majority of voters to agree with you, obviously the internet and social networks have become powerful tools now.

Illegally camping, violence, "passive civil disobedience," daring and trying to provoke the police, and bringing down the quality of life of the people around you, some of whom sympathize with you, does nothing but make you look bad.
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Old 11-17-2011, 08:19 PM
 
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If you read the posts... you'll find that the OWS guy is insane and many of the OWS that post after him are also insane because they support it... I think its funny how stupid they are... $18-$90/hr wage caps and then tax the $90/hr at 90% tax rate which means the richest guy is making $10/hr which is less than the minimum limit... what an idiot... math wasn't his/her strong suit... actually education wasn't their strong suit...
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Old 11-17-2011, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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But it was submitted by OWS participants, whether they are "official spokesmen" or not. Without an official leader and an official statement, of course the public and the media will look for something resembling it. Here's a suggestion for the OWS: get an official, unified, clear message!! Or stop blaming us for looking for one!!
Surely they didn't try to get consensus on any of these things. They are so ridiculous with that crap that I have to wonder just what their professors have been telling them about government.
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