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Old 01-25-2012, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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I think it is fairly obvious, the required education for today's high-technology world and work simply cannot be ascertained in just high-school, where you're still learning to clothe yourself.

Higher education is becoming more and more important--and unfortunately--more and more (and more and more and more and more) expensive.
Not everything in today's world is high tech. I work in IT, that's a high tech field. My housekeeper? No. My plumber? No. Are these jobs that I value having in our society? Absolutely.
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Old 01-25-2012, 10:10 PM
 
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Not everything in today's world is high tech. I work in IT, that's a high tech field. My housekeeper? No. My plumber? No. Are these jobs that I value having in our society? Absolutely.
I would agree. I think there's only a small portion of jobs in those really high tech areas that demand $$$. Most jobs we end up doing are pretty basic, really. Heck, I'm a supply chain manager for an IT company, and my basic role includes interfacing with customers and processing orders/shipments via email/online ordering systems. College degree required, but it's not really that difficult. I guess the degree indicates to my employer that I'm committed and follow through, at least so much as to get a degree from a good college.
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Old 01-25-2012, 10:13 PM
 
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Not everything in today's world is high tech. I work in IT, that's a high tech field. My housekeeper? No. My plumber? No. Are these jobs that I value having in our society? Absolutely.
Skilled trades still require education and on-the-job training, not exactly something you're going to get without a little advanced education.

As for the housekeeper--I suspect she isn't making the $15+ and hour a journeyman would make.

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I would agree. I think there's only a small portion of jobs in those really high tech areas that demand $$$. Most jobs we end up doing are pretty basic, really. Heck, I'm a supply chain manager for an IT company, and my basic role includes interfacing with customers and processing orders/shipments via email/online ordering systems. College degree required, but it's not really that difficult. I guess the degree indicates to my employer that I'm committed and follow through, at least so much as to get a degree from a good college.
With no disrespect, your job probably doesn't require a college education. Few jobs really do, but "the market" has employers looking for college-educated persons to do some pretty basic jobs.

I'm actually pretty shocked at what needs a college education these days.
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Old 01-25-2012, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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I would agree. I think there's only a small portion of jobs in those really high tech areas that demand $$$. Most jobs we end up doing are pretty basic, really. Heck, I'm a supply chain manager for an IT company, and my basic role includes interfacing with customers and processing orders/shipments via email/online ordering systems. College degree required, but it's not really that difficult. I guess the degree indicates to my employer that I'm committed and follow through, at least so much as to get a degree from a good college.
Oh when I get resumes from kids getting out of college, I do indeed take that into consideration. Everything from their class selection to their GPA tells me immediately if they are indeed serious about work. I can understand why potential employers prefer to have employees with college degrees due to this very fact. But, with the incredibly high cost of college, is this the best thing for all kids? I guess I question that logic.
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Old 01-25-2012, 10:18 PM
 
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With no disrespect, your job probably doesn't require a college education. Few jobs really do, but "the market" has employers looking for college-educated persons to do some pretty basic jobs.

I'm actually pretty shocked at what needs a college education these days.
Maybe, maybe not. Who's to say. I guess my employer thinks it does. My job is by no means basic, it requires a lot of technical knowledge of supply chain operations and order management. It's not exactly rocket science, that's what I meant with my earlier comment. But I understand what you mean. Some basic admin jobs that didn't require a degree several years ago and do now, well that's just ridiculous.

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Old 01-25-2012, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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Skilled trades still require education and on-the-job training, not exactly something you're going to get without a little advanced education.

As for the housekeeper--I suspect she isn't making the $15+ and hour a journeyman would make.



With no disrespect, your job probably doesn't require a college education. Few jobs really do, but "the market" has employers looking for college-educated persons to do some pretty basic jobs.

I'm actually pretty shocked at what needs a college education these days.
Trust me, she makes a great living. A good housekeeper is worth their weight in gold.
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Old 01-25-2012, 10:49 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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I've never once regretted earning a BA in Latin.
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Old 01-26-2012, 06:20 PM
 
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Trust me, she makes a great living. A good housekeeper is worth their weight in gold.
Would you say housekeeping is a skilled trade on par with plumbing, electrical, or masonry? I've never had a housekeeper, so I'm asking.

Also, perhaps for a little detail, what kind of tasks is the housekeeper performing?
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Old 01-26-2012, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Trust me, she makes a great living. A good housekeeper is worth their weight in gold.
I've had some good ones and some awful ones, all for the same price.
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Old 01-26-2012, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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Would you say housekeeping is a skilled trade on par with plumbing, electrical, or masonry? I've never had a housekeeper, so I'm asking.

Also, perhaps for a little detail, what kind of tasks is the housekeeper performing?
No, I would not put it in the same category. I was referencing various jobs that require or do not require college degrees. The housekeeper discussion specifically was a sidetrack that has little to do with the topic at hand.

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I've had some good ones and some awful ones, all for the same price.
Yes, I feel as though I've lucked out in my personal situation and given the great demand for her, her prices are a bit higher. I've also had awful ones as well and was willing to pay the premium for her excellent work.
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