Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
So if so many people see Norway as better than the USA in so many ways and including for the poor, then why aren't people moving to Norway?
Norway must have something going for it but we're the country where most immigrants are trying to get into -- and oddly enough, the poorest immigrants of the world want to come to the USA.
Have you looked into the immigration requirements for Norway or the European Union for that matter?
They are much tougher than the USA's and Norwegian is the main language used and very small language compared to the USA who uses English as a main base and is internationally known. More immigrants will likely know English, than Norwegian.
You need to look over the requirements to even get there. It doesn't explicit say blonde hair and blue eyes but there are "family" requirements and lots of them.
I'm sure it's a nice place to live with a bunch of blonde hair blue-eyed women running around but it's also the exact opposite of the way the world is going with integration. The world will eventually look like America, not Norway.
That doesn't even touch on the fact that their social safety net is heavily funded by huge oil resources (that are on the decline) and it's going to be a huge problem for them to continue with their "freebies" as time goes on.
They had safety nets before the oil and dispite its oil wealth it still has a fairly diversified economy on par with Sweden's or Denmark's.
Face it, the Nordics are the prime example of good governance.
Denmark has no natural resources to speak of, yet has lower public debt than most countries and maintains excellent quality of life.
Have you looked into the immigration requirements for Norway or the European Union for that matter?
They are much tougher than the USA's and Norwegian is the main language used and very small language compared to the USA who uses English as a main base and is internationally known. More immigrants will likely know English, than Norwegian.
Well then why don't they go there illegally like they come here illegally?
Maybe Norway hasn't imported so much poverty, unlike the USA which does. A very large portion of our poverty is imported, the USA draws those who cannot make it in their own countries and find out poverty safety nets very impressive.
What good is there in comparing when we have no immigration laws, no limits on who can come while those better countries keep the indigent out?
Well then why don't they go there illegally like they come here illegally?
Maybe Norway hasn't imported so much poverty, unlike the USA which does. A very large portion of our poverty is imported, the USA draws those who cannot make it in their own countries and find out poverty safety nets very impressive.
What good is there in comparing when we have no immigration laws, no limits on who can come while those better countries keep the indigent out?
We have a border with a country that has fairly low living standards compared to the USA. Norway doesn't border any low standard country and is fairly distant from one.
The opposite question might also be interesting, namely, where would you want to be born into a wealthy family?
Interesting, but if you're born into true wealth in any first-world country, the world is open anyway - borders become quaint.
Quote:
I remember a conversation with my mother where we were talking about jobs, income, etc. I told here that I don't mind being poor as it leaves me a lot of time for myself. She was like, gee, don't say you are poor, you are not poor, yada yada (I am officially poor, like it or not, mom.) As if I had been talking about death or terminal diseases Funny, that stigma of material poverty is very stubborn Even my mother is not beyond that, despite being a pretty progressive, immaterial person...
Well, there are some niceties with a bit of cash. Not the Xbox and cellphones that everybody seems to consider the hallmarks of luxury - but fairly robust health insurance, disability insurance, life insurance - to say nothing of a reliable car, knowing that losing your job would be a problem but not an immediate disaster, being sure that you can travel for a family emergency, that kind of stuff. That being said, a few creature comforts don't hurt.
We have a border with a country that has fairly low living standards compared to the USA. Norway doesn't border any low standard country and is fairly distant from one.
This is incorrect even though the point you're trying to make still stands. Norway borders Russia in the far north. There's a huge difference in living standard. I should know as I served the army at the border a while back. I would share pictures, but I'm not comfortable sharing pictures of military installations over the internet (Russian or Norwegian.)
I was told it is the border with the second biggest difference in living standards after the US/Mexico border.
The border is well guarded on both sides. That, the climate and its remote location makes illegal crossings exceptionally rare. (Other than silly tourists (-: )
They had safety nets before the oil and despite its oil wealth it still has a fairly diversified economy on par with Sweden's or Denmark's.
Face it, the Nordics are the prime example of good governance.
Denmark has no natural resources to speak of, yet has lower public debt than most countries and maintains excellent quality of life.
Norway runs structural budget deficits without the oil. True, they're trying to get off that dependence and it's also true they're trying to curb the dependence of its people on the welfare state.
Norway is a nation state so if you like that, then simply go there. I know many Norwegians who'd rather be here because of far greater opportunity to grow their wealth. That's the down side of socialist states you know...
Once you get there don't be alarmed at the high suicide rate.
The other nation states are, again, not comparable at all to the U.S. but you might want to try to compare them to certain states in the United States.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.