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Has everyone forgotten the economic crisis that is hitting Europe worse than it is the US? Just look at Greece, Italy, and the rioters in England just a few months ago. Their society is collapsing precisely because of their un-affordable welfare state and social model.
You need to understand that Europe is not one country.
Based on your last sentence, that I've highlighted, why then is the US collapsing? The US is only one country, so it should be easier for you to present the response.
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Originally Posted by shpanda
Still, would never want to live in Norway, Sweden, Denmark, etc. The only "nice standard of living" countries besides the US I would want to live in are Canada and New Zealand.
Any reason why you only chose English language countries?
Last edited by chielgirl; 11-20-2011 at 01:30 AM..
Has everyone forgotten the economic crisis that is hitting Europe worse than it is the US? Just look at Greece, Italy, and the rioters in England just a few months ago. Their society is collapsing precisely because of their un-affordable welfare state and social model.
It is not about the welfare state. In Greece it is about things like wage increases without productivity increases, an economy without much substance (service, retail etc., but too little manufacturing, thus few exports, a problem the US is no stranger to these days), tax evasion, etc.
Other countries such as the Netherlands, France, or Germany have a more generous welfare system, health care system, etc. than Greece or Portugal, still they are doing fine, simply because they avoid those problems they have in Greece. In Italy corruption is an additional problem.
And in many of the PIGS countries investors and speculators are a key reason for the crisis. Since many of them are located in the US and in Britain, they have so far not really tried to drive their own countries into the wall. Be happy you live in one of those two countries.
Society is not collapsing anywhere except for Greece maybe, and there the reason is the exaggerated austerity programs forced upon the Greek by the IMF, ECB etc., programs that are killing off what was left of the economy.
USA if I were really lazy....because I know the bleeding hearts would give me a free ride!
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Brazil would be one of countries at the bottom of my list. Their poor is REALLY poor...nothing like we have here, I can guarantee you.
Really? The poor people who come to my church and are helped by our churches outreach have it extremely difficult. I don't know of any who get free internet, computers, television, mobile phones and go shopping at the mall.
Well you are wrong.
Almost all welfare recipients have a television, a large number of them have internet and computers and the welfare programs now give them free cell phones. Almost every welfare recipient has gone to a mall to shop, many go often. Where I live is near the border where thousands of poor people have recently arrived and the schools in "poor" areas give away free laptops.
You need to understand that Europe is not one country.
You mean the hive collective adopted by the socialists, known as the EU?
Based on your last sentence, that I've highlighted, why then is the US collapsing? The US is only one country, so it should be easier for you to present the response.
I'll give you 3 guesses - debt, debt, debt, a result of spending, spending spending, TOO MUCH.
Any reason why you only chose English language countries?
China? Iran?
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left better ones out.
