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Old 11-22-2011, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I am very happy with these poll numbers. It means that Americans are not buying the propaganda that we hear on CD every single day.
Now only if they voted with similar thoughtfulness as opposed to buying political rhetoric.

 
Old 11-22-2011, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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He says he pays a higher % then headge fund managers. They average about 27% . If he is paying more then that he is making around $220,000 or more.

The tax rate on hedge fund managers is 15%, not 27%
 
Old 11-22-2011, 02:23 PM
 
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WE can cut spending across the board.
The bottom line is there are few too many real wealthy to amount too much at all. If ya cant convince these clowns to close the checkbook, then they will just be coming after more of your money.

So what if the pool showed 55% of Americans favored raising taxes on anyone making more then $15k less then you do and raising them a lot. Still think we shoulc?
 
Old 11-22-2011, 02:24 PM
 
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I'm in my 30s, have an income close to top 5% (not there right now), and trust me, I won't feel the pinch of my income taxes going up by 4-5%. This country could use that more than I need to.
Pay extra on your own if it's not a problem for you.

Or better yet, find someone and give them the money directly - that way they will see 100% of your donation, instead of the 30% after government overhead expenses (or whatever the percentage is).
 
Old 11-22-2011, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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WE can cut spending across the board.
The bottom line is there are few too many real wealthy to amount too much at all. If ya cant convince these clowns to close the checkbook, then they will just be coming after more of your money.

So what if the pool showed 55% of Americans favored raising taxes on anyone making more then $15k less then you do and raising them a lot. Still think we shoulc?

Bush tax cuts allowed to expire for the top 5% of earners would amount to over 700 billion dollars a year.
(BTW, I hate the term Bush tax cuts, Obama owns them now also, but it helps to identify the ones I'm talking about)

And thats a drop in the bucket?

And "what if" isn't reality, the poll numbers, from completely different sources, show reality.

Cut military, save social security and medicare, raise taxes on the rich.

Don't follow at your political peril.
 
Old 11-22-2011, 02:27 PM
 
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The tax rate on hedge fund managers is 15%, not 27%

No its not. The tax rate on cap gains is 15 % . They are not earning all their money as cap gains.
 
Old 11-22-2011, 02:28 PM
 
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Now only if they voted with similar thoughtfulness as opposed to buying political rhetoric.
How are they (we) going to be able to do that, when they control the candidates that we get to choose from. To be a candidate you need big money backing. The system is deeply flawed.
 
Old 11-22-2011, 02:29 PM
 
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No its not. The tax rate on cap gains is 15 % . They are not earning all their money as cap gains.
Cite please.
 
Old 11-22-2011, 02:30 PM
 
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No its not a drop in the bucket , but its not even enough to run a yr without deficit spending.

Its real easy to say raise other peoples taxes. What takes real balls is to say " raise everyones taxes , including mine" . But on one wants to say that.
 
Old 11-22-2011, 02:31 PM
 
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Cite please.
You dont actualy need me to explain to you what a salary is do you?
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