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Old 11-26-2011, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Columbus
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Wish I could rep you again. Don't confuse these RWs with the facts. It destroys their idea of some Ayn Rand-like dream economy.
Nevermind that I pointed out that the government did eliminate unemployment in WW2. We were still in a decession.

But don't confuse Keynsian economic fallacy with fact.
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Old 11-26-2011, 08:40 AM
 
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You have obviously never worked for a public agency, such as a health department. We always had to meet productivity guidlines, e.g. how many patients seen in a day, how many immunizations given, blah, blah, blah.
Please Katiana. This is simple law of nature stuff here. And the health industry is not the norm. Besides, what I'm talking about is much larger than individual worker productivity, that much should be obvious.

You want productivity guidelines? Run a business.
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Old 11-26-2011, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Please Katiana. This is simple law of nature stuff here. And the health industry is not the norm. Besides, what I'm talking about is much larger than individual worker productivity, that much should be obvious.

You want productivity guidelines? Run a business.
Don't kill the messenger. That's how it is at a health dept. Why does anyone think a private entity could run one more efficiently?
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Old 11-26-2011, 08:44 AM
 
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I think he has a point with this one. You can't be an absolutist and say that the public sector does absolutely nothing productive. Police and firefighters do provide value to society. You can however say that the private sector is X% more efficient on average. And I'd substitute a pretty high number for X.
Incorrect. You can hire 100,000,000 firefighters but what would you pay them to do? And where would you get the money to pay them?
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Old 11-26-2011, 08:46 AM
 
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Why was bush elected twice if he was the Antichrist people make him out to be?

Answer: The stupidity of the average American voter.
Because unemployment was 1/2 of what it currently is. Why do you guys celebrate failures and cricitize success so often?
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Old 11-26-2011, 08:49 AM
 
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Don't kill the messenger. That's how it is at a health dept. Why does anyone think a private entity could run one more efficiently?
It's very simple. If a private entity isn't efficient, they die. If a public entity isn't efficient, they get more money.

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Incorrect. You can hire 100,000,000 firefighters but what would you pay them to do? And where would you get the money to pay them?
I'm not saying that all government workers are productive. I am just saying that not all government workers are unproductive.
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Old 11-26-2011, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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It's very simple. If a private entity isn't efficient, they die. If a public entity isn't efficient, they get more money.
You don't know what you're talking about. I once worked at a health department immunization clinic that was closed due to lack of patients, er, customers.
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Old 11-26-2011, 08:54 AM
 
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You don't know what you're talking about. I once worked at a health department immunization clinic that was closed due to lack of patients, er, customers.
Oh wow. There was one instance in history that doesn't support my point. Well that proves that I'm wrong and you're right. Please excuse my ignorance.

Or you could turn on the common sense part of your brain for about five seconds. Inefficient companies are a thousand times more likely to die than inefficient government agencies. Do you know what the word "competition" means?
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Old 11-26-2011, 08:54 AM
 
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You don't know what you're talking about. I once worked at a health department immunization clinic that was closed due to lack of patients, er, customers.
Having a lack of patients isnt a lack of efficiency
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Old 11-26-2011, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Columbus
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You don't know what you're talking about. I once worked at a health department immunization clinic that was closed due to lack of patients, er, customers.
The government is 15 trillion in debt.

And they want to raise taxes to get more money.

It's pretty obvious that when the government loses money they want/get more. Despite what happens at one office here or there.
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