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Old 11-23-2011, 02:26 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Conservatives love to talk about how bad of a president FDR was when it is a fact that the country loved him in the 1930s to the point they elected him 4 times.


Propaganda.

The Government ran the news.
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Old 11-23-2011, 02:33 PM
 
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Conservatives love to talk about how bad of a president FDR was when it is a fact that the country loved him in the 1930s to the point they elected him 4 times.

"Sleep while you work, rest while you play, lean on your shovel to pass the time away, at the WPA."

-- Louis "Satchmo" Armstrong
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Old 11-23-2011, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Errr.. And the rest of the story ..

Did FDR’s New Deal policies really prolong the Great Depression? Will Obama’s policies have a similar effect? « Rebel
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Old 11-23-2011, 02:38 PM
 
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Wait...........FDR..........RACIST!!!

He interned the Japanese via executive order.

You lefties of today would have been calling for a hanging of your hero!!!
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Old 11-23-2011, 02:40 PM
 
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Conservatives love to talk about how bad of a president FDR was when it is a fact that the country loved him in the 1930s to the point they elected him 4 times.
Crack a non-revisionist history book or economics book OP!

http://mises.org/freemarket_detail.aspx?control=515

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But as Murray Rothbard showed in America’s Great Depression, it was the easy money policies of the early and mid-1920s that created all the malinvestment that was the trigger for the Great Depression. The only wise thing to have done was to allow the liquidation of hundreds of overcapitalized businesses to occur. Instead, the Fed increased the monetary base by 100 percent in five years, causing more of the same overcapitalization problems that were the source of the problem in the first place.

On top of that, virtually every single one of FDR’s "New Deal" policies made things even worse and prolonged the Depression. Austrian economists have known this for decades, but at least the neoclassical model builders have finally caught on—we can hope.
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Old 11-23-2011, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Conservatives love to talk about how bad of a president FDR was when it is a fact that the country loved him in the 1930s to the point they elected him 4 times.

Let me start this by saying, not everything tha Roosevelt signed into law created jobs or helped the economy.

But the biggest thing he brought to office was a feeling that we could do it again. America wasn't done, the glass is half full, etc.

He made people feel good about their country and their stances. And yeah, he put a bunch of poor folks to work and created all kinds of debt doing it, but it made people think they could do something again. Long term unemployment is staggering to our nation, because it proves the American dream false. You can work hard, do your job, and keep out of trouble and still not make it here.

What ended the depression, was the war. Plain and simple. Its what jump started everything. Massive government spending from debts we were buying from Europe and Russia. We were buying their debt, and they loaning England a military.

Then the actual entry into the war in January of 1942 really blew up.

The war department went into Ford, GM's, Chrysler, and AMC's headquaters and said "This is the last day you will build cars, now you will build airplanes"

Within two weeks they had planes rolling off the line.

Its why the 1945 and 1946 models were the exact same as the 1941 model cars.
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Old 11-23-2011, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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Only an idiot believes the political propaganda that he prolonged the Great Depression. People living thru the times, obviously, knew better.
Exactly. Pretty much every legitimate historian credits the New Deal as a huge success and puts FDR in the top three presidents of all time.

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Ted Kennedy killed a young woman but was elected to another 5 terms.
Why does this surprise or bother you? It was an accident.

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When you talk about employment picking up while FDR was in office you are including the CCC, PWA, and WPA
Of course. That is employment...right?

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and those were nothing but being paid subsistence wages by the government. More of that government paying people to avoid the high numbers of unemployment.
Using that flawed logic, one could say the same thing about any civil service job.

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You do know that Obama and his advisors think the same thing about employment that FDR thought, I think.
This is true. Obama has spoken at length about his respect for FDR, and it's a big reason why he received my vote in 2008. I'd hope every American would be pleased that our current president chooses to emulate arguably the greatest president in American history.
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Old 11-23-2011, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Cape Coral
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The stock market never really came back even close to what it was in 1929 until the 1950's. Isn't that a good barometer of economic activity?
Redirect Notice
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Old 11-23-2011, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Crack a non-revisionist history book or economics book OP!

The Free Market: The New Deal Debunked
Mises Institute! Isn't that the source of the Ron Paul Bible? You know, the group who's stated position is any Govt involvement is economically and socially destructive. OoooKaaay, why am I hear "Twilight Zone" music....
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Old 11-23-2011, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Wait...........FDR..........RACIST!!!

He interned the Japanese via executive order.

You lefties of today would have been calling for a hanging of your hero!!!
SHUSH!
Don't remind anyone
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