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Old 11-24-2011, 11:51 PM
 
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But, but, but, but..........................................

He had sex outside a bedroom with a woman not his wife, something NO self-Righteous man has ever done!
But, but, but.....Clinton had Bin Laden's rear end on a platter. And did nothing.

Clinton didn't think Monica was going to grow a set and bring him to task either.

Folks can't whine about all the warnings Bush had (supposedly) and did nothing about, when Clinton had the same...and the problem with Clinton IGNORING Bin Laden is Clinton and his admin's LACK of foresight. How many years was Clinton in office and how many terrorists attacks happened under his watch? Just little ones, nothing that was going to lead up to a big one? You know, b/c 9/11 was planned from the day Bush was inaugurated. Those terrorists worked pretty damn fast to organize all they did.

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Old 11-25-2011, 12:02 AM
 
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Says who? You?
Pretty much the entire world except for US rethugs.
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Old 11-25-2011, 11:48 AM
 
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What rock have you been living under?

Ramzi Yousef - nephew of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed - was responsible for that attack.

Al Qaeda, of which bin Laden was CEO, are behind almost every significant terrorist attack against U.S. interests for the last couple of decades.
I may be out of the loop, but it was my impression that while there may have been some funds moved, Ramzi and KSM weren't taking orders from ObL in 1993. (ObL was busy p.ssing off the Sauds at the time.)
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Old 11-25-2011, 11:57 AM
 
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But, but, but.....Clinton had Bin Laden's rear end on a platter. And did nothing.
Well, apart from those missile strikes on ObL's camp. We all remember the Right backing those, right? Right?

Nah, just kidding, they were yelling "WAG THE DOG!" at the top of their lungs, because they finally had their chance to set the agenda, and it was about who the President had sex with it. ObL? Pshaw.
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Old 11-25-2011, 12:37 PM
 
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I may be out of the loop, but it was my impression that while there may have been some funds moved, Ramzi and KSM weren't taking orders from ObL in 1993. (ObL was busy p.ssing off the Sauds at the time.)
In the 1998 OBL interview in Esquire, he states that he didn't know Ramzi Yousef before the 1993 bombing, but implied that he liked what he'd done.
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Old 11-25-2011, 01:08 PM
 
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More rightly, the seeds of 9/11 were planted by Ronald Reagan. It was under his tutelage that we trained and armed the Mujahideen during the Soviet Afghanistan War. Then we learned that they hated us as much as they hated the Russians.

I hate it when I inadvertently train my enemy in terrorist tactics.
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Old 11-25-2011, 01:47 PM
 
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More rightly, the seeds of 9/11 were planted by Ronald Reagan. It was under his tutelage that we trained and armed the Mujahideen during the Soviet Afghanistan War. Then we learned that they hated us as much as they hated the Russians.

I hate it when I inadvertently train my enemy in terrorist tactics.
Yeah, well - it seemed like a good idea at the time - proxy wars were SOP during the cold war. The opportunity was somewhat lost in the aftermath, but the idea itself had merit. Fairly good ROI in military terms. Not all opportunities work out. I've little use for Reagan overall, but that bit worked out pretty well.

However, he completely mishandled the aftermath of the suicide bombing of the Marine barracks in Beirut. Withdrawal within months of the attack?
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Old 11-25-2011, 02:58 PM
 
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Yeah, well - it seemed like a good idea at the time - proxy wars were SOP during the cold war. The opportunity was somewhat lost in the aftermath, but the idea itself had merit. Fairly good ROI in military terms. Not all opportunities work out. I've little use for Reagan overall, but that bit worked out pretty well.

However, he completely mishandled the aftermath of the suicide bombing of the Marine barracks in Beirut. Withdrawal within months of the attack?
It worked out well in the short run; in the long run, not so much. We are dealing with that now. The law of unintended consequences and all that.
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Old 11-25-2011, 03:17 PM
 
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The history rewrite attempts continue..Sorry but we have the google machine now. We know Dubya was at the ranch snoozing when he ignored the impending attack. We know he drooled for 7 minutes after being told the attack had taken place and we know he attacked the wrong country in retaliation.
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Old 11-25-2011, 03:52 PM
 
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Complete fabrication. The CIA never had UBL in their sites nor had any assets or a "team" in place to get him at any time according to the 9/11 report, and multiple other sources that testified before the commission.

Clinton refused to kill bin Laden - YouTube
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