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Old 11-25-2011, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Strange, I dont see the choice of a male or female nurse there.
I'll give you a f'rintstance in my own hospital: If you're an orthodox Jew you're not supposed to allow yourself to be touched by a menstruating woman. For that reason alone you can insist on a male nurse. They call this sort of thing "Cultural Competence". That said, what makes this case dodgy is that while a patient can refuse care from a male, I doubt the supervisor has the right to pre-emptively forbid such contact in blanket fashion.
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Old 11-25-2011, 09:37 AM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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Tell them to go to another hospital. We do not allow patients to dictate the direction of thier care, nor to choose staff. It is not a cafeteria plan and there are many other options.

Amen! You said it. Go elsewhere.
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Old 11-25-2011, 09:38 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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I'll give you a f'rintstance in my own hospital: If you're an orthodox Jew you're not supposed to allow yourself to be touched by a menstruating woman. For that reason alone you can insist on a male nurse. They call this sort of thing "Cultural Competence".

you can insist all you want, but if all that is available is that type of nurse, then you either take what is offered at the taxpayer funded clinic, or go someplace else and pay for the needed service at your own expense.
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Old 11-25-2011, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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you can insist all you want, but if all that is available is that type of nurse, then you either take what is offered at the taxpayer funded clinic, or go someplace else and pay for the needed service yourself.
Yes, IF that's all that's available. If the patient makes such a request, it is generally regarded as a reasonable accomodation. In this case we have a supervisor forbidding such contact before a patient even makes the request. That doesn't sound 'kosher' to me. (Pun not intended.)

I'll give you another situation: A female patient refusing the attention of a male mammographer.
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Old 11-25-2011, 09:46 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Yes, IF that's all that's available. If the patient makes such a request, it is generally regarded as a reasonable accomodation. In this case we have a supervisor forbidding such contact before a patient even makes the request. That doesn't sound 'kosher' to me. (Pun not intended.)

I'll give you another situation: A female patient refusing the attention of a male mammographer.

in the article, another supervisor ordered the nurse to treat even the muslim women. he was in a bind either way. if it goes to court, I hope he gets enough to retire very wealthy.

as far as the male mammographer. if the clinic said that is all we have, then she would have to make the decision of letting the male to the test, or to go to another place and have it done at her cost.
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Old 11-25-2011, 12:00 PM
 
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Tell them to go to another hospital. We do not allow patients to dictate the direction of thier care, nor to choose staff. It is not a cafeteria plan and there are many other options.
I'd try to make the patients comfortable if circumstances permitted. It was in a clinic setting, no one was in extremis. That said, if I'm the only staff on duty and you don't want me, as long as you're breathing and not bleeding, I'll give you a list of other places to go.

It sounds more like the supervisor trying to enforce his beliefs before the actual patients even had a chance to object.

This is up there with patients that demand not to be seen by residents at teaching hospitals- it's a right that is not there.
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Old 11-25-2011, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Texas
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This happens at our hospital, too.
The women (well, more like their husbands) always want female nurses and physicians.
The nurses you can usually arrange for...but the physician isn't always available.
I agree that it's a ridiculous request.
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Old 11-25-2011, 12:03 PM
 
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Yes, IF that's all that's available. If the patient makes such a request, it is generally regarded as a reasonable accomodation. In this case we have a supervisor forbidding such contact before a patient even makes the request. That doesn't sound 'kosher' to me. (Pun not intended.)

I'll give you another situation: A female patient refusing the attention of a male mammographer.
It's a reasonable request, but in an understaffed clinic many times you're just trying to get through the day, so unless the guy is dripping in Drakkar Noir during the exam- it should be a purely clinical experience.

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