Boo hooo hoo, my books. Says a Toronto Protestor (legal, highway, Brown)
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Yes, public land is owned by the tax payers. All of them. It is infringing on the rights of others if you occupy any of the public land for days at a time in a tent as though it is your own. Or if you store your belongings there, same difference. Do you think these two pay much as far as taxes anyhow? I don't.
Their books were removed for the same reason I can't open my own business out of a tent in the parking lot of the county court house. What don't you understand?
Your rights end, where mine begin.
It is sickening how people are so quick to judge....IE: Do you think these two pay much in taxes?
It was a collection of books, taking up space on land THAT DOESNT BELONG TO THEM
That doesnt mean you can do whatever the hell you want on it
Why not? You said one can do whatever they want on public land, so why cant I open up a Bed & Breakfast at the White House?
I dont need my children, they however need me, without me, my children wouldnt exist, according to your rationality, my children cant own property Where do you live, North Korea?
It was public land that they rights to. I did not say that one can do whatever they want....what I said was they did not build a physical library and possessing books on public property is not illegal.
So you think the government does not need its people? You beeter think thst through and perhaps read history and the founding documents of this country before answering.
They did not build a physical library, it was a collection of books. which by definition is what a library is.
PUBLIC land is owned by the tax payers genius.
You can't even compare apples to apples.
Permits are not limited to the construction of a structure. Permits can apply to land uses (permanent or temporary). Storage of materials, such as books, is a land use. Operation of a library is a land use.
Enough speculation. Let's simply review the document that governs the park:
Per Section 608-7 Encoachment of the Toronto Municipal Code - Parks:
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Unless authorizedby permit, no person shall encroach upon or take possession of a park by any means whatsoever including the construction, installation or maintenance of a fence or structure, the dumping or storage of materials or plantings, or planting, cultivating, grooming or landscaping.
Per Section 608 - 9 Access of the Toronto Municipal Code - Parks:
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B. Unless authorized by permit, no person shall use, enter, or gather in a park between the hours of 12:01 a.m. and 5:30 a.m.
Per Section 608 - 11 Organized gatherings, special events, festivals, and picnics of the Toronto Municipal Code - Parks:
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While in a park, no person shall:
A. Unless authorized by permit, hold a picnic, organized gathering or special event for more than 25 persons.
Per Section 608 - 13 Camping and lodging of the Toronto Municipal Code - Parks:
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Unless authorized by permit, no person shall dwell, camp, or lodge in a park.
It was public land that they rights to. I did not say that one can do whatever they want....what I said was they did not build a physical library and possessing books on public property is not illegal.
So you think the government does not need its people? You beeter think thst through and perhaps read history and the founding documents of this country before answering.
This occurred in Canada so the founding documents of this country do not apply.
In Canada just as here in the US your Constitutional rights supercede municipal rule. Guess that is why it is in court.
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Originally Posted by MIKEETC
Permits are not limited to the construction of a structure. Permits can apply to land uses (permanent or temporary). Storage of materials, such as books, is a land use. Operation of a library is a land use.
Enough speculation. Let's simply review the document that governs the park:
Per Section 608-7 Encoachment of the Toronto Municipal Code - Parks:
Per Section 608 - 9 Access of the Toronto Municipal Code - Parks:
Per Section 608 - 11 Organized gatherings, special events, festivals, and picnics of the Toronto Municipal Code - Parks:
Per Section 608 - 13 Camping and lodging of the Toronto Municipal Code - Parks:
It is sickening how people are so quick to judge....IE: Do you think these two pay much in taxes?
You people are ridiculous.
And your rights end when I'm occupying land so you cant use it
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Originally Posted by Chromekitty
It was public land that they rights to.
You have no rights to land THATS NOT YOURS.. How old are you?
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Originally Posted by Chromekitty
I did not say that one can do whatever they want....what I said was they did not build a physical library and possessing books on public property is not illegal.
But clealy you believed they can do whatever they wanted which happened to be storing books on land not owned by then. yes it is illegal to occupy land thats NOT YOURS.
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Originally Posted by Chromekitty
So you think the government does not need its people? You beeter think thst through and perhaps read history and the founding documents of this country before answering.
Who said government doesnt need the people? Because government needs me, I can now operate a Bed and Breakfast in the White House? Where does the Constitution allow me to occupy the White House?
In Canada just as here in the US your Constitutional rights supercede municipal rule. Guess that is why it is in court.
These rules are under Constitutional challenge? Provide the link because that would be interesting.
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