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Old 11-29-2011, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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No dog in this fight but it would seem given your grievances OP that your time and effort would be better spent advocating the other political party move closer than it already has toward being more business-friendly rather than tilt at giant cruciform windmills within the GOP. At the very least that plan of action has had tangible results.

Republicans

Tax cuts for corporate jets = good

Tax cuts for the middle class = bad

Pizza = vegetable

You can't reason with that.

 
Old 11-29-2011, 09:21 PM
 
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As a Republican I fully agree. We need a moderate conservative center right party.
Well you can't be a real Republican, according to wing nuts. You must be a rino. In fact, that is what is wrong with the party...the people in the party who call others in the party rinos.
 
Old 11-29-2011, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Well you can't be a real Republican, according to wing nuts. You must be a rino. In fact, that is what is wrong with the party...the people in the party who call others in the party rinos.
I was called a Democrat a few days ago.
 
Old 11-29-2011, 09:33 PM
 
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I was called a Democrat a few days ago.
I keep hearing the same thing from Wingnuts about Huntsman. You are in good company. Just consider the source.
 
Old 11-29-2011, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Well you can't be a real Republican, according to wing nuts. You must be a rino. In fact, that is what is wrong with the party...the people in the party who call others in the party rinos.
Ironically, many of those self-appointed champions of party purity were Dems in the '70s and earlier.
 
Old 11-29-2011, 10:09 PM
 
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According to their history, we should have expected the Republican Party to stand up for LGBT rights, not the Democrats. I prefer the Republican Party of the past, not the party of today that is desperately (and unsuccessfully) trying to reconcile its desire for economic freedom with bible-thumping moral legislation. It's just not working out for them.
If the GOP would run an Eisenhower-type candidate, I'd slip his campaign a $50. Hell, even Nixon looks positively charming compared to what's running today.
 
Old 11-29-2011, 10:11 PM
 
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If the GOP would run an Eisenhower-type candidate, I'd slip his campaign a $50. Hell, even Nixon looks positively charming compared to what's running today.
Nixon. Damn Nixon would be a vast improvement. Too much to hope for an Eisenhower Republican.
 
Old 11-29-2011, 10:30 PM
 
Location: Earth
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If the GOP would run an Eisenhower-type candidate, I'd slip his campaign a $50.
For an Eisenhower Republican, look no further than Jon Huntsman.
 
Old 11-29-2011, 11:09 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Actually the OP's dream already has come true, or at least started to. Six years ago then-RNC-chair, acknowledged that the 'Southern Strategy' had been pursued, that it was wrong, and he apologized for it.
RNC Chief to Say It Was 'Wrong' to Exploit Racial Conflict for Votes

Under W Bush we had our (at the time) highest ranked black public officials in history, namely Powell & Rice (SOS is 4th in presidential succession). In 2010 there were 32 black Republicans who ran for Congress. So this is something that is already transpiring before your eyes but for some reason you have not seen it.
 
Old 11-29-2011, 11:25 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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Fascinating. I would have thought a moderate split to the GOP would ensure an Obama win, but judging by responses here, a good number of independents and centrist dems might bolt to someone like Huntsman.

As a pretty diehard center-left democrat who likes Mr. O, I'd would not go for it, but I would like to see some back and forth with center left Pres, center-right congress or vice versa over time. That is the only way to get anything done. With the extremes fighting to the death, all we get is constant lies and gridlock. And when a party gets all branches of government they don't show good sense or rein each other in (how many times did Bush II wield the veto from 2001-2008?)
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