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Old 11-30-2011, 07:17 AM
 
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Yeah...they weren't really....

Some were possibly kicked out IF they made it too well known.

Friend who has been in Marines for 20 years has had gay Marines under his command,it has even become known(through other Marines seeing them) he asked his senior NCO what he thought should be done and the answer was nothing beyond telling that Marine to be more discreet.
Well, then that senior NCO was violating the law. Thousands of gay men and women were thrown out of the military without making it known whatsoever - they were simply discovered or somebody with knowledge of their sexuality turned them in.
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Old 11-30-2011, 07:22 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Well, then that senior NCO was violating the law.
Yes.

Happened all the time.
Our friend was their commanding Officer at the time.

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Thousands of gay men and women were thrown out of the military simply for being discovered or when somebody with knowledge of their sexuality simply turned them in.
Thousands per year?
Thousands in the last five years?
Thousands in the past few decades?

We also knew a few lesbian WM's(Woman Marines),being the Chef at the local 'gay bar' you got to know quite a few.

A gay friend was also in a long term relationship with a Marine stationed at our former hometown,they bought a house together and nothing happened.
I think he might have retired.
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Old 11-30-2011, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I was in 'Nam a few decades ago and we knew who was gay and who was straight. One of the gay guys was an inspired killer that would cover your back under any conditions. He was shot in an ambush and bled out the same color as everyone else.
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Old 11-30-2011, 10:11 AM
 
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Just as some straight people make Freudian slips on a regular basis, and then just claim it was a typo.....
Huge difference....

The "Freudian slips" don't occur on a regular basis for the explicit purpose of proclaiming gayness, rubbing peoples noses in gay issues and trying to convince people gay is normal and if you don't agree with them you're a bigoted white conservative...
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Old 11-30-2011, 10:13 AM
 
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Well so much for the sky is falling, chicken little crowd; as predicted there are no problems with repealing D.A.D.T....even for the Marine Corps.

Don't Ask Don't Tell: Top Marine Says Service Embracing Gay Ban Repeal

Marine Gen. Amos Now OK with DADT Repeal : LGBT | POV (http://www.lgbtpov.com/2011/11/marine-gen-amos-now-ok-with-dadt-repeal/ - broken link)

Top Marine: Corps ‘adapted well’ to DADT ditching | reportergary.com

Don't Ask, Don't Tell - The New York Times

Another Conservative DADT Defense Falls Apart | Equality Matters
Really, what did they think was going to happen?
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Old 11-30-2011, 10:14 AM
 
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Gays can't control themselves, they are mentally challenged to proclaim their gayness and gay feelings on a routine basis...
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The only people who care about gay dudes having the buttsex are sexually repressed jesus freaks who have an ironic obsession with gay dudes having the buttsex.

Hmmmmm.....
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Old 11-30-2011, 10:15 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Since the end of DADT,how many openly gay military personnel have come forward or enlisted?
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Old 11-30-2011, 10:23 AM
 
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Yeah...they weren't really....
Google is your friend. Roughly 12,000 discharges since 1993.

Admirals, generals: Let gays serve openly - US news - Military - msnbc.com


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Some were possibly kicked out IF they made it too well known.
Or if they were on their CO's sh.t list. Or if a competitor for promotion wanted them out of the way. Perhaps their CO was an irrational bigot, like a few of the C-D posters.

The bottom line: 12,000 people who were trained on your and mine dime were kept from using their skills and training because of who they liked to sleep with. It was a stupid, stupid policy and way overdue to be removed.
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Old 11-30-2011, 10:34 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Google is your friend. Roughly 12,000 discharges since 1993.

Admirals, generals: Let gays serve openly - US news - Military - msnbc.com


Or if they were on their CO's sh.t list. Or if a competitor for promotion wanted them out of the way. Perhaps their CO was an irrational bigot, like a few of the C-D posters.

The bottom line: 12,000 people who were trained on your and mine dime were kept from using their skills and training because of who they liked to sleep with. It was a stupid, stupid policy and way overdue to be removed.
12,000 out of......????

Seems like an incredibly small number.

I wonder how many were discharged for other,similarly silly reasons?
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Old 11-30-2011, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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Well so much for the sky is falling, chicken little crowd; as predicted there are no problems with repealing D.A.D.T....even for the Marine Corps.

Don't Ask Don't Tell: Top Marine Says Service Embracing Gay Ban Repeal

Marine Gen. Amos Now OK with DADT Repeal : LGBT | POV (http://www.lgbtpov.com/2011/11/marine-gen-amos-now-ok-with-dadt-repeal/ - broken link)

Top Marine: Corps ‘adapted well’ to DADT ditching | reportergary.com

Don't Ask, Don't Tell - The New York Times

Another Conservative DADT Defense Falls Apart | Equality Matters
Big deal........ what do you think what supposed to happen?
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