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To condemn or stop??? Why should they monitor and police their own group? That's fascist. People are going to act weird. It's life. Get over it.
Exactly why protests are pointless. Because people only remember the violence and the weirdos. Even if the disruptive sort weren't there, who here has had their mind changed by people walking down a street holding up cardboard with words drawn on them?
I dont think they did cause it wasnt planned well & the issues were too many with no leader. Im not really sure if the protests of the 60s accomplished anything but back then the horrid vietnam war sure was a hot topic.
The OWS protests are intended to get people to think. Seems to be, at least partially, working on you.
Sure they did. They mobbed the streets and made the Wall-street problem known in all of the mainstream media. This was a good first step. You probably think in black and white thinking. What they did was the first step in acknowledging a prolonged problem. So don't be cynical.
The OWS has made a tremendous impact on our country. It showed who would support such an anti-American revolution: Obama, Pelosi. the democrat national committee...
It opened up discussions on The Federal Reserve, Income Inequality and corruption on Wall St and politics. Also, almost 1 Million people joined credit unions in a few short months.
It is far from over though, this was the beginning of a US and Worldwide awakening. 2012 will be one crazy year and I predict the same people that hate OWS now will be protesting in the streets right alongside them.
Yeah! Nobody was talking about those things before OWS!
People were "talking" about it for decades. "Talking" does not accomplish anything. Using our 1st Amendment Rights to protest has proven effectual in the past. Sorry you feel differently.
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I love it when OWS folks try to take credit for that.
Hey, why not take credit for taking out OBL, too? You had about as much influence on that as with people flocking to credit unions...
650,000 people moved from big banks to credit unions in October, 50,000 more than in ALL of 2010. New deposits totaled $4.5 billion
Source: Planetsave (http://s.tt/13Jig)
Sorry, but you cannot deny that OWS had an effect on this. There are numberous articles written about it. Anyways, this is just the beginning.
Dismissing OWS will seem foolish on your part in a few months.
It is far from over though, this was the beginning of a US and Worldwide awakening. 2012 will be one crazy year and I predict the same people that hate OWS now will be protesting in the streets right alongside them.
I agree. This is the beginning, not the end.
"The rogues’ gallery of Wall Street crooks, such as Lloyd Blankfein at Goldman Sachs, Howard Milstein at New York Private Bank & Trust, the media tycoon Rupert Murdoch, the Koch brothers and Jamie Dimon at JPMorgan Chase & Co., no doubt think it’s over. They think it is back to the business of harvesting what is left of America to swell their personal and corporate fortunes. But they no longer have any concept of what is happening around them. They are as mystified and clueless about these uprisings as the courtiers at Versailles or in the Forbidden City who never understood until the very end that their world was collapsing.
Revolutions always begin, [Crane Brinton] wrote, by making impossible demands that if the government met would mean the end of the old configurations of power. The second stage, the one we have entered now, is the unsuccessful attempt by the power elite to quell the unrest and discontent through physical acts of repression."
The only thing they accomplished was making utter fools of themselves, and I say this as a liberal who protested the Iraq war in college.
I watched an Occupy Wall Street documentary on BBC last night that featured a "meeting" of these OWS loons, and I must say I think I lost several brain cells watching this idiocy. I would say the OWS are an odd mixture of fringe Ron Paul supporters, drug addicts, and homeless vagrants. Nothing they said made a lick of sense, and then they delved into this spooky chanting, when they weren't yelling at eachother.
Weird group of people.
well said. the OWS movement started out with good intentions, but they overstayed their welcome, along with becoming a rabble of law breakers across the country.
the tea party people obtained all the needed permits, and followed all the rules laid before them, the OWS movement never did.
the tea party people had their protest, then went home. the OWS people tried to make public parks their home.
the tea party people cleaned up after themselves, the OWS people did that once only because they were going to lose their campsites if they didnt.
the tea party people wanted LESS government, lower taxes, and less government spending. the OWS people wanted MORE government, higher taxes, and MORE government spending.
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To condemn or stop??? Why should they monitor and police their own group? That's fascist. People are going to act weird. It's life. Get over it.
the tea party worked hard to monitor and police their own group because they knew that if bad things happened, they would be excoriated in the press, even more than they were, and their support would fall away quickly.
as for comparing the OWS movement to the anti war protesters during the 60s,
the OWS protesters had no uniform message, the vietnam war protesters did. the OWS protesters are seen as squatters where as the vietnam protesters were seen as radicals that wanted the war ended. both had a negative image, and both caused problems, but of the two the vietnam war protesters were the better of the two groups by a large margin.
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