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Why don't colleges base entrance on merit instead of skin color?
These are Ivy League schools we're talking about. They can refuse or select admission based on what ever they want. At some of these colleges 30% of all accepted students are "legacy students" meaning they had an edge because their parents attended that school(and maybe are among the top alumni donors today).
UC Berkeley, which doesn't consider race in admissions has a student body that's 40% Asian--and actually seems more Asian than that if you ever stroll around the Cal campus. Ha ha--score one for the liberal meritocracy of the University of California system!
It makes sense that many people do not want to attend universities that are dominated by boring Asians. American kids study hard but they also party hard and they want to socialize, not spend all their time memorizing text books.
Asians are American. I guess you are referring to the "white" American students?? Well, I guess those "white" American students will be crying discrimination when some "Asian" gets the job over them, or any other ethic person that applied themself to achieve high scores Maybe "white" Americans can justify it because they studied, partied and socialized so hard?
From what I have seen education is instilled in Asians from early on as being vital to success. Most of these students have grandparents or parents that were immigrants who started up small businesses and worked 18 hours a day. They saved for their childrens education. Yeah, work ethic is important to them. They didn't raise their children providing all the latest toys, they provided them with the tools that help one to achieve. Historically Jewish people have instilled the importance of an education very early on in their childrens lives.
It seems that people who are mediocre and can't achieve something, blame it on someone or something, but conveniently from a different ethnic background for their own failures, in addition to being threatened by those who aim higher and succeed.
I worked for a Chinese lawyer (who was on a green card) in a major NYC law firm for several years. It was one of the best times during my working period. When lawyers worked on a document revising that document was referred to as "turn around". While it took his colleagues anywhere from 10 to 15 attempts (depending on the size) he did it in a fraction of that time. He was thorough and a perfectionist with high work standards. We worked well together because we shared the same work ethics. He was also one of the nicest people I worked for with a great sense of humor. Working with him highlighted the difference between him and his "American" colleagues.
Maybe people shouldn't see other people of a different ethnicity as a threat but more of a challenge to themself - in a good way.
It's long been known that Asians are discriminated against in the college admission process.
Yeah, when I saw the thread's title, my first thought was "isn't this old news?" I went to a private prep school for middle & high school, which had an Asian population of around 40% - and being a competitive prep school, a good percentage of us (all races) were Ivy-bound and/or qualifying. We all knew the Asian students would have a slight disadvantage in being accepted, while certain other minorities would have a slight edge... and this was back in the early-mid '90s, so it's been a known issue for many years now. If somebody was really worried they'd often check another race in the application, or leave that question blank, but the best students still got in regardless of their ethnicity.
I wouldn't say "nobody cares," since I heard my share of complaints about this subject in high school. I think they just don't know what to do about it, aside from neglecting to check Asian as their ethnicity... as colleges are legally allowed to have racial quotas, and apparently some limit their Asian acceptances in an attempt to increase diversity. Is that right? Well, I applaud the effort to diversify, but wish it wasn't at the expense of other deserving students.
While Whites are busy high-fiving asians for finally "experiencing" what it feels like to be discriminated and banding together against blacks and hispanics, its important to understand that the number of qualified blacks/hispanics/native americans/other who go on to apply to a given school is tiny compared to the number of white and asian applicants, often in the single digits percentage wise. For more expensive and more selective schools, the number of asian applicants rejected in favor of WHITES may be several times higher than the number of black/hispanic/native american students COMBINED who actually get accepted and attend the school. @ UC Berkely in 2009, 129 blacks, 19 American indians and 477 hispanic students actually enrolled in the university during the fall. This is compared to 1829 asians and 1321 whites. Yes, UC isn't allowed to admit based on race, but regardless the number of individuals who are accepted from minority backgrounds who go on to enroll is, somewhat trivial as far as numbers go.
1. Have Asians sued or made any kind of a mass protest against this discrimination?
2. I love that Asians know that there is any workaround for this. The only racial group in the United States that requires proof of ancestry is Native American. Otherwise you really can check whichever box you want. If Soledad O'brien can claim to be black what's to stop them?
Post of the week.
No one is discriminating against Asians for the most part in college admissions. And if they are, they aren't doing anymore so than they're doing it for any other racial group. Probably less if anything.
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I went to a private prep school for middle & high school, which had an Asian population of around 40% - and being a competitive prep school, a good percentage of us (all races) were Ivy-bound and/or qualifying. We all knew the Asian students would have a slight disadvantage in being accepted, while certain other minorities would have a slight edge... and this was back in the early-mid '90s, so it's been a known issue for many years now. If somebody was really worried they'd often check another race in the application, or leave that question blank, but the best students still got in regardless of their ethnicity.
