Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 12-05-2011, 04:18 AM
 
Location: in the southwest
13,395 posts, read 45,020,621 times
Reputation: 13599

Advertisements

That would be the provision of the law, called the medical loss ratio, that requires health insurance companies to spend 80% of the consumers’ premium dollars they collect—85% for large group insurers—on actual medical care rather than overhead, marketing expenses and profit.

Sooo...what's going to happen?

I am not going to pretend to be an expert on this topic.
I do know that my husband and I are now paying twice as much for health insurance, while receiving far less coverage than we once had.

Maybe the same careful scrutiny given to the fine print in my premiums will also be given to those who make my healthcare decisions for me.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 12-05-2011, 04:57 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
7,085 posts, read 12,053,112 times
Reputation: 4125
That;s horrible, an insurance company must spend a majority of its money on medical care instead of bonuses for execs?

We should get rid of that right away, let them screw patients for pay.

Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-05-2011, 05:12 AM
 
Location: Ohio
24,621 posts, read 19,163,062 times
Reputation: 21738
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueWillowPlate View Post
Sooo...what's going to happen?
I don't know. Depends on how much they spend on administrative costs.

If you look at the June 2011 SSA report, they paid out $577.4 Billion in benefits at a cost of $3.5 Billion.

Effectively, it costs 6/10ths of 1 cent ($0.006) to pay $1 in benefits.

If you look at OADI (Social Security Disability), they paid out $124.2 Billion at a cost of $3.0 Billion.

That's about $0.024 to pay $1 in benefits.

In 2010, Medicare spent $244.5 on payments and $3.5 Billion on administrative costs. That comes to about $0.013 per $1 in benefits paid.

One of the things that both reports make clear, is that their administrative costs are comparable to private industry. In other words, the cost for government to administer those benefits is in the ball-park with private industry.

I don't really see how these private health care plans would be greatly affected.

Overhead is basically the same. If it costs $0.08 sq ft for maintenance and $0.11 sq ft for security for government, it costs about the same for private enterprise. Social Security, HUD, OSHA and many others rent space "on the economy" and they pay the same rates and have the same costs as any other business.

If anything, these companies might have to cut back on advertising to meet the guidelines. I don't think the US is going to burn down, fall over and sink into a swamp because of that.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-05-2011, 06:50 AM
 
17,400 posts, read 11,972,033 times
Reputation: 16152
Quote:
Originally Posted by subsound View Post
That;s horrible, an insurance company must spend a majority of its money on medical care instead of bonuses for execs?

We should get rid of that right away, let them screw patients for pay.

The federal government has no right to tell a private company how to run its business. That would be socialism.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-05-2011, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
22,229 posts, read 17,853,377 times
Reputation: 4585
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueWillowPlate View Post
That would be the provision of the law, called the medical loss ratio, that requires health insurance companies to spend 80% of the consumers’ premium dollars they collect—85% for large group insurers—on actual medical care rather than overhead, marketing expenses and profit.

Sooo...what's going to happen?

I am not going to pretend to be an expert on this topic.
I do know that my husband and I are now paying twice as much for health insurance, while receiving far less coverage than we once had.

Maybe the same careful scrutiny given to the fine print in my premiums will also be given to those who make my healthcare decisions for me.
This is one of the BEST things in the new HC Law.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-05-2011, 07:00 AM
 
20,948 posts, read 19,047,114 times
Reputation: 10270
Quote:
Originally Posted by subsound View Post
That;s horrible, an insurance company must spend a majority of its money on medical care instead of bonuses for execs?

We should get rid of that right away, let them screw patients for pay.

Guess what?

The government is the biggest denier of medical treatment.

What now?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-05-2011, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Long Island
32,816 posts, read 19,480,794 times
Reputation: 9618
Quote:
Originally Posted by subsound View Post
That;s horrible, an insurance company must spend a majority of its money on medical care instead of bonuses for execs?

We should get rid of that right away, let them screw patients for pay.

basics facts...insurance is not care..never was..insurance is risk managment
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-05-2011, 07:05 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
7,085 posts, read 12,053,112 times
Reputation: 4125
Quote:
Originally Posted by alphamale View Post
Guess what?

The government is the biggest denier of medical treatment.

What now?
Really? Prove it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-05-2011, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
22,229 posts, read 17,853,377 times
Reputation: 4585
Quote:
Originally Posted by alphamale View Post
Guess what?

The government is the biggest denier of medical treatment.

What now?
Umm, more of the premium dollars going to medical care services.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-05-2011, 07:18 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
41,479 posts, read 59,778,277 times
Reputation: 24863
What is it called when business can tell the government how and what to govern?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top