If You're a Birther at this point... (country, Hawaii)

[wrecking ball]

Originally Posted by SourD

Wearing gold during Ramadan is worse than wearing it any other day..

exactly where are you getting this information from?

[Jermaine88]

Just ignore the idiots. Some people believe what they WANT to believe. They don't care for facts.

[Jermaine88]

Originally Posted by wrecking ball

exactly where are you getting this information from?

Probably google searches.

Some of his claims seem to be almost a direct copy and paste from a few search results.

[sarcasm]And we all know EVERYTHING thing we find in a google search must be true.[/sarcasm]

[Arus]

Originally Posted by SourD

Nothing has turned up but a fake BC and a fake birth announcement.

False. No fake birth certificate has been released and the news paper announcements are in fact real. A birther (Hilary Supporter) found the announcements and said they were real.

Please join us in 2011; you are repeating 3 year old debunked claims.

[Arus]

Originally Posted by wrecking ball

exactly where are you getting this information from?

the voices in his head apparently...

[Sunnysee]

"A birther (Hilary Supporter) found the announcements and said they were real."

Yes, they are really announcements of a birth that were in a newspaper. They do not prove the baby that was born to parents that supposedly lived at the given address (reportedly, a neighbor that still lived at that address two years ago can't recalla mixed race couple having ever lived there) had delivered their baby in the state of Hawaii. Therein still lies "the rub."

Who put the announcement in the paper? was it phoned in? Most of all, where was the baby born and how many days after the birth were the announcements placed?

There are reports that the birth mother traveled a lot and that at two weeks of age for the baby, she flew back to the state of Washington.

It is very possible that she gave birth out of the country and then flew back to Hawaii with the baby, or a grandparent had the newspaper print the announcement and then after that, the baby returned to Hawaii.

This child traveled more than a lot of kids and lived in three countries as a child. This mom reportedly traveled more than most young moms "back in the day."

Announcements aren't diddly. Note even the announcements didn't say WHERE the baby was born, didn't name a hospital, etc.

The announcements for the other babies did not say where they were born, either. Problem is that the other babies are not known for certain to have had such a dysfunctional upbringing of globetrotting. etc. and they aren't, now leaders of the free world.

[HistorianDude]

I'm curious.... why have the photographs I posted showing Obama wearing his wedding ring and watch during Ramadan disappeared?

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by Sunnysee

Yes, they are really announcements of a birth that were in a newspaper. They do not prove the baby that was born to parents that supposedly lived at the given address had delivered their baby in the state of Hawaii. Therein still lies "the rub."

Who put the announcement in the paper? was it phoned in? Most of all, where was the baby born and how many days after the birth were the announcements placed?

Another example of blissfully ignorant Birther continuance of a lie that was debunked more than three years ago.

The ONLY source of birth announcements in Hawaiian newspapers at that time period were directly from the Department of Health based on birth certificates submitted directly from hospitals. There was no "phoning them in."

It is astounding the stupidity on which the entire Birther movement depends.

[skoro]

... then your name is Rick Perry.

[Arus]

Originally Posted by Sunnysee

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Who put the announcement in the paper? was it phoned in? Most of all, where was the baby born and how many days after the birth were the announcements placed?

Announcements in the Vitals Section of the news paper, came straight from the Hawaii Department of Health and Vital Statistics.

Do you know where they got their stats? From the hospitals.

Its was like this when Obama was born and IT IS STILL like this today. Any announcement of a birth that appears in the vital statistics section of the now, Honolulu Star Advertiser comes from the DOH.

Obama's couldn't have been placed in the newspaper by simply calling them up. The hospital had to submit this information. If Obama wasn't born in a hospital, his birth announcement wouldn't have appeared in a newspaper 1 week after his birth.

There are reports that the birth mother traveled a lot and that at two weeks of age for the baby, she flew back to the state of Washington.

False. there are no reports. That is made up lies by birthers. Stanely A Dunnham was in a long distance correspondence education program with a Washington University in the few months after Obama was born. There is no proof that she had flown to Washington in the year that Obama was born to attend school

YOU do know what a correspondence program is right?

It is very possible that she gave birth out of the country and then flew back to Hawaii with the baby, or a grandparent had the newspaper print the announcement and then after that, the baby returned to Hawaii.

Not remotely possible in 1961.

In today's dollars that would have been a trip that cost $10K. What 18 year old girl had that kind of money?

This child traveled more than a lot of kids and lived in three countries as a child. This mom reportedly traveled more than most young moms "back in the day."

This child lived in Hawaii from birth to 5 years of age, then moved to Indonesia from 5-10 years of age, then moved back to Hawaii and lived there till he was 18 years of age.

Traveling to only 1 country in 18 years is hardly "traveling" a lot. I traveled alot more than he did by the time was 12 years of age.

Announcements aren't diddly. Note even the announcements didn't say WHERE the baby was born, didn't name a hospital, etc.

announcements are circumstantial evidence that support PHYSICAL evidence (the COLB) that Obama was born where he said was born. And the announcements are ONLY for those born in HAWAII. A person born elsewhere, would not have an announcement of said birth in the newspaper, under that SECTION of the newspaper.

Personal announcements for births, appeared in another section of the newspaper.

You should actually look at a newspaper once in a while. I know in this digital age, you may find them to be tacky, but they offer a lot of information. Seeing as you're very unfamiliar with what the classifieds section looks like.

The announcements for the other babies did not say where they were born, either. Problem is that the other babies are not known for certain to have had such a dysfunctional upbringing of globetrotting. etc. and they aren't, now leaders of the free world.

the announcements are ONLY for those born in HAWAII. A person born elsewhere, would not have an announcement of said birth in the newspaper, under that SECTION of the newspaper.