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Old 12-07-2011, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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They had to keep charging him with something. Sooner or later they were going to find him guilty.

Scary stuff this kind of trial. I don't support what "Blago" did, and I think he was breaking the law. But if you bring him to trial once, and he walks, then you shouldn't get to try, try again.
Give me a break. This is how our judicial system works. The first time they tried him it ended in a hung jury. That doesn't mean he was found 'not guilty' and decided to just keep on trying him until the charges stuck.
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Old 12-07-2011, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Give me a break. This is how our judicial system works. The first time they tried him it ended in a hung jury. That doesn't mean he was found 'not guilty' and decided to just keep on trying him until the charges stuck.

Must be found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. His first jury didn't convict him, they found reasonable doubt, or doubt enough in the prosecutions case.

They shouldn't be able to prosecute him again. I understand this is how our legal system works, but that doesn't mean its right.
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Old 12-07-2011, 04:24 PM
 
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I still say this is Blago's song. Listen closely, he could be singing it.
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Old 12-07-2011, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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Must be found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. His first jury didn't convict him, they found reasonable doubt, or doubt enough in the prosecutions case.

They shouldn't be able to prosecute him again. I understand this is how our legal system works, but that doesn't mean its right.
No. They had a hung jury.

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A hung jury or deadlocked jury is a jury that cannot, by the required voting threshold, agree upon a verdict after an extended period of deliberation and is unable to change its votes due to severe differences of opinion.
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Old 12-07-2011, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Exactly, they couldn't agree on his guilt.
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Old 12-07-2011, 05:02 PM
 
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Exactly, they couldn't agree on his guilt.
All but one of the jurors felt he was guilty in the first trial. All but one. This lead to a hung jury and a retrial ensued. This is how our legal system works for everyone charged with a crime, not just Blago. This isn't "scary stuff". He didn't "walk" after the first trial. And they didn't keep charging him with new crimes until they found one that stuck either. Had he been found not guilty during the first trial, they would not have been able to retry him. They did not find him not guilty.

So essentially, 23 of 24 jurors found him guilty over the course of two trials. Pretty damning stats.
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Old 12-07-2011, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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All but one of the jurors felt he was guilty in the first trial. All but one. This lead to a hung jury and a retrial ensued. This is how our legal system works for everyone charged with a crime, not just Blago. This isn't "scary stuff". He didn't "walk" after the first trial. And they didn't keep charging him with new crimes until they found one that stuck either. Had he been found not guilty during the first trial, they would not have been able to retry him. They did not find him not guilty.

So essentially, 23 of 24 jurors found him guilty over the course of two trials. Pretty damning stats.

Even one juror should be enough.
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Old 12-07-2011, 05:21 PM
 
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Even one juror should be enough.
To clear him of all crimes? No. It afforded him a new trial, which was fair.
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Old 12-07-2011, 05:46 PM
 
Location: South Dakota
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Well Im in Illinois and I never voted for him and Im glad he's going to do some time

I can only imagine the corrupt deals going on right now to shield the rest of the criminal Chicago mob that includes 0bummer...

I bet 0 will pardon him in exchange for silence...

Rahm, Daleys, Cullerton, Madigans, and 0bummer are all at least as criminal as Rod...
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Old 12-07-2011, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Democratic Peoples Republic of Redneckistan
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Well Im in Illinois and I never voted for him and Im glad he's going to do some time>cut<
I agree with you and I didn't vote for him either...I didn't vote in that race because Judy Baar Topinka was an even bigger flake than Blago and I couldn't stand the sight of either one of them.

IL hasn't had a good Gov in it's history..Big Jim was a slimey bottom feeder,Edgar was just a step below a used car salesman on the food chain and Quinn isn't worth two dead flies as far as his caring about the state,it's taxpayer's will or it's budget.

Illinois is truly unique in the fact that it truly does not matter if the politician is an R or a D,chances are nearly 100% that they are a crook.
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