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Old 12-08-2011, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Originally Posted by wutitiz View Post
Well, to steal a line from the BDS'ers:

Holder lied, people died
That is so well said, especially since we had to listen to it for so many years.
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Old 12-08-2011, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Let me know if Holder is next trying to redefine "racist" or the infamous phrase "my people."

Time for his replacement to be chosen.
Of course, he will be forced into just what you say but his people are the same as Obama's so he will continue to get by with that one.
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Old 12-08-2011, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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I posted this before but believe it bears repeating. It is much to the advantage of Republicans to let Holder stay right where he is. It's not like Obama is going to replace him with a Constitutionalist.

Al Gore lost the 2000 election in large part due to the gun control issue. He lost his home state and Clinton's because of it, otherwise he would have been prez. Obama has tried with all his might to avoid that trap, but now he finds himself facing a potential firestorm from the NRA (no pun intended). Now the NRA has a bloody shirt to wave, so to speak.

The admin pulled this fast and furious stuff because they were angling for gun control. But if Holder is forced out the admin can say, ok, we had a problem, but it's all over now. That guy is gone. That's going to be worth many votes from blue-collar union types alone whose unions are going to be haragnuing them to vote for Obama.
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Old 12-08-2011, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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Who does Holder represent in "Animal Farm"? The Squealer? One who manipulates the language to excuse, justify criminal actions.
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Old 12-08-2011, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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I posted this before but believe it bears repeating. It is much to the advantage of Republicans to let Holder stay right where he is. It's not like Obama is going to replace him with a Constitutionalist.

Al Gore lost the 2000 election in large part due to the gun control issue. He lost his home state and Clinton's because of it, otherwise he would have been prez. Obama has tried with all his might to avoid that trap, but now he finds himself facing a potential firestorm from the NRA (no pun intended). Now the NRA has a bloody shirt to wave, so to speak.

The admin pulled this fast and furious stuff because they were angling for gun control. But if Holder is forced out the admin can say, ok, we had a problem, but it's all over now. That guy is gone. That's going to be worth many votes from blue-collar union types alone whose unions are going to be haragnuing them to vote for Obama.
Darned well put. A good post that I wonder how our progs can handle. Oh yes, they will think of a way.
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Old 12-08-2011, 08:18 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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This guy needs to be impeached.

He refuses to turn over documentation, not even bothering to cite the privilege of why he doesn't need to.

I guess the administration thinks if they continue to ignore this, if the media continues to ignore the most transparent admin ever that now refuses to cooperate in this terrible scandal, they might get away with the lies, the murders, the blood that is on their hands.

Now, we all KNOW, with a doubt, the MSM, the NYT, WaPo, LATimes, network news, cable news, would be all over this, would be pounding and pounding the drum to come clean, if this were a republican admin.
You got that dang straight as usual. So correct, they would be all over this in a heartbeat. You know they would, it would be front headline news, on the cable news outlets etc.

All is not fair for sure, in love and politics.
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Old 12-08-2011, 09:16 PM
 
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Well Eric Holder is now redefining the word "lie".
Isn't it great when we can redefine words to suit our needs ?
Dang it..just give him a lie detector test already.


Eric Holder debates definition of
The questioning was during Thursday morning’s House Judiciary Committee hearing on Operation Fast and Furious.
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Still unsatisfied, Sensenbrenner followed up again. “Tell me what the difference is between lying and misleading Congress in this context?,” he asked Holder.

Holder responded that whether a statement is a lie or misleading comment depends on what the person making it is thinking at the time."
Yep, he's an attorney through and through. They live in an alternate reality.
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Old 12-08-2011, 09:23 PM
 
Location: The High Seas
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Raise your hand if you think Obama didn't know anything about "Fast & Furious" and didn't order the go-ahead himself.

I don't see any hands.
Just what I thought.
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Old 12-08-2011, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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Yep, he's an attorney through and through. They live in an alternate reality.

Holder like Obama live in their peculiar little worlds where their wishes are reality. They have fortresses of solitude impenetrable by any point of fact.

They are unreachable. They are Africans not Americans.
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Old 12-08-2011, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Rational World Park
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So was Dubya lying when he said there were WMD's in Iraq?
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