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Old 12-10-2011, 11:21 AM
 
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I have never seen where the employee pays any of it. He says they do in PA. I live close to PA (on the state line). I'll have to ask someone to see if it's true.
I live in Pennsylvania and yes, it is true.
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Old 12-10-2011, 11:22 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Magritte25, TWO minimum wage earners working f/t 4,160 hours per year would gross $30,160. They could live in a low cost region and eat. There is no reason to expect one working a no skill job to support others. EVERY adult should be expected to work, if their skill levels do not allow the LUXURY of being supported via one worker.
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Old 12-10-2011, 11:24 AM
 
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Magritte25, TWO minimum wage earners working f/t 4,160 hours per year would gross $30,160. They could live in a low cost region and eat. There is no reason to expect one working a no skill job to support others. EVERY adult should be expected to work, if their skill levels do not allow the LUXURY of being supported via one worker.
GROSS. The key word is Gross. They would take home about $22K. If a man or woman puts in an honest day's labor, he should be compensated fairly. I'm not sure why that concept is lost on so many.
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Old 12-10-2011, 11:25 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Employees pay a small portion in a handful of states. In over 45 states , it is 100% employer funded, for the first 26 weeks ui. All added weeks are, as another poster said, similar to Welfare, and funded by general tax dollars.

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Old 12-10-2011, 11:26 AM
 
Location: NJ
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He is compensated fairly. Minimum wage is for those w/o skills. So he/she is paid commensurate to what they bring to the table, in skill levels.
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Old 12-10-2011, 11:28 AM
 
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He is compensated fairly. Minimum wage is for those w/o skills. So he/she is paid commensurate to what they bring to the table, in skill levels.


We'll have to agree to disagree. I think anyone who is working a FT job should be able to support a family on his wages.
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Old 12-10-2011, 11:32 AM
 
Location: NJ
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I agree with paying commensurate with skill set levels, and wish people would consider the financial aspects of raising a family ahead of having kids.

BTW, I know of regions where $22k will allow one to live a modest lifestyle. Rent a small apartment, buy food, drive mid-life compact cars. Many states have higher minimum wage levels, increasing net pay. Many working retail get 50 cents to a dollar over minimum, that is several grand for the 4,160 hour family.

The 2,080 hours for doing June Cleaver impressions is a luxury, not a necessity.
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Old 12-10-2011, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Chambersburg PA
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I'm all for a "safety net" but when the safety net becomes more an enabler, I have a problem. The economy sux, we all know that, and we know that people who are more than qualified have a hard time finding jobs, but alot of times people turn down jobs because it doesn't pay what they uSED to make. Sorry, life ain't what it USED to be.
My hubby lost his job, and had to take what he could find, which is minimum wage plus OT, with the possibility to get hired on full-time and get paid about $10/hr when he does. He took it. I took on more hours at my work...and we're making it.
Point is, you can't rely on the govt. to support you for years on end.
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Old 12-10-2011, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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I agree with paying commensurate with skill set levels, and wish people would consider the financial aspects of raising a family ahead of having kids.

BTW, I know of regions where $22k will allow one to live a modest lifestyle. Rent a small apartment, buy food, drive mid-life compact cars. Many states have higher minimum wage levels, increasing net pay. Many working retail get 50 cents to a dollar over minimum, that is several grand for the 4,160 hour family.

The 2,080 hours for doing June Cleaver impressions is a luxury, not a necessity.
States having a higher minimum wage, tend to have a higher cost of living.

While it would be impossible to live off of minimum wage in N.Y. City, Here in southern Va, it's very possible. I know someone living in 2 bedroom apt, paying 600 a month for rent, all utilities included. With 2 people working min wage, they could live very well.
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Old 12-10-2011, 11:47 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Amen, faeryedark, The Extra 73 weeks ui should have been viewed as a one-sie, not approved again and again. Now I'm not saying 26 is sufficient, but 99 weeks does create dependency. Those turning down lower-paying jobs are showing a lack of a true work ethic.
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