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Old 12-10-2011, 04:21 AM
 
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And they were nothing like the U-2, so the point remains...

The Russians almost certainly got American stealth technology back in 1999 when an F-117 went down in Yugoslavia. Twelve and a half years later, no Russian stealth aircraft.
It never ceases to amaze me how so many people make so many ridiculously false claims.

Just Google - Russian Stealth Fighter, and you will see:

Sukhoi T-50 stealth fighter
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Old 12-10-2011, 04:27 AM
 
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It never ceases to amaze me how so many people make so many ridiculously false claims.

Just Google - Russian Stealth Fighter, and you will see:

Sukhoi T-50 stealth fighter
It never ceases to amaze me how so many people are so stupid that they think a plane which isn't even planned to be introduced into service until 2016 is currently operational.

Except when it's GuyNTexas... then I'm not amazed at all!

Let's see...

2016-1999=17

Thus, 2011+17=2028

Horrors!

Iran will have stealth drones by 2028!

And now, back to your regularly scheduled buffoonery...
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Old 12-10-2011, 04:32 AM
 
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And it's not like Iran can hope to replicate the drone.

And even assuming they trade it to Russia or China for a favorable vote in the Security Council someday, it's one thing to know how to do something, it's another to do it.

After all, the Soviets got a U-2. But they never built one themselves, or anything like it...
They don't need to spy on us. They can rely on guys like Leaky Leahy and the like to provide em with the info. They can however use this one to figure out how it's made and how to find em in the air, track em, shoot em down, etc. Our genius minds in the pentagon are probably right now deciding whether to tank this program and ask for billions more to start up a "new" one because once China and Russia know how to find these birds and shoot em down there is no reason to put em up there. I don't know whey these things aren't fitted with some type of self destruct device.
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Old 12-10-2011, 04:32 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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And they were nothing like the U-2, so the point remains...

The Russians almost certainly got American stealth technology back in 1999 when an F-117 went down in Yugoslavia. Twelve and a half years later, no Russian stealth aircraft.
Kind of ironic considering that much of the F-117's stealth technology was apwned by an obscure Russian scientific paper.
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Old 12-10-2011, 04:36 AM
 
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It never ceases to amaze me how so many people make so many ridiculously false claims.

Just Google - Russian Stealth Fighter, and you will see:

Sukhoi T-50 stealth fighter
It ceases to amaze me the folks who scream about our military budget don't realize why it is so high. Do we have the same stealth technology we had back then? Of course not we have to stay ahead of the curve which costs money. Hell we're getting ready to hand Greece 400 Desert Storm tanks for free because they been sitting in a warehouse collecting dust for the last fifteen years. There is a reason they been in a warehouse our new equipment is the best in the world. Many seem to think we can just rest on our laurels and all will be fine.
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Old 12-10-2011, 04:41 AM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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And they were nothing like the U-2, so the point remains...

The Russians almost certainly got American stealth technology back in 1999 when an F-117 went down in Yugoslavia. Twelve and a half years later, no Russian stealth aircraft.
The F-117 Nighthawk is Retired because the F-22, EA-18G Growler F/A-18E/F Super Hornet and F-15E Strike Eagles out perform the 30 year old F-117 and the fact that it hd to sit in climate controlled hangers and needed lost of downtime to service and maintain and after it was shoot down it's stealth was compromised..iIn 2008 it was either spend billions to modrenize it or mothball the fleet to buy more F-22A Raptors and F-35 JSF II.
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Old 12-10-2011, 06:47 AM
 
Location: Orlando
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So Iran outsmarts the military and electronically captures a drone... and this is Obama's fault? guess your ingrown toenail is too, since he didn't have some podiatrist support program...?

we have clouds today in Orlando...must be Obama's fault.
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Old 12-10-2011, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Military should have just destroyed it without even asking Obongo.
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Old 12-10-2011, 08:17 AM
 
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the Soviets built the MiG-25 FoxBat and Mig-31 Foxhound were made for one purpose and that was total air domination. They were made to intercept ICBM's on the edge of space and shoot them down.
The MIG-25 was designed to counter the perceived threat of high altitude supersonic bombers, specifically the B-58 Hustler.

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Cold War Era planes make todays planes seem pretty tame
Nonsense. Mig-25 was an interceptor that had very poor maneuverability and limited range, all it had going for it was speed. When the F-15 was introduced it was a far superior aircraft, and a MIG-25 would get splashed by an F-22 without even seeing it coming.
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Old 12-10-2011, 08:27 AM
 
Location: La Jolla, CA
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Yeah, I'm assuming that "giving" it to them was no mistake.
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