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Old 12-13-2011, 11:01 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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With a 25% approval rating and shoes flying in his direction.
With about 75% of the media being anti-Bush, I'm surprised his approval rating was that high.
Also, his approval rating was higher in Dec., 2003 than Obama's is in Dec., 2011.

And how is some nut throwing a shoe relevant?
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Old 12-14-2011, 07:37 AM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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What will Obama declare?
Pick one:
victory

defeat

tie

And just for the record going into Iraq was a bipartisan position. Bush couldn't/didn't do it all by himself.

The "lie" had alot to do with the choices that congress made in regards to the war
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Old 12-14-2011, 07:40 AM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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Perhaps you could detail for us the congressional composition over the past 3 years?

You know, the same ones that passed the healthcare reform.......but couldn't end the wars?
The healthcare reform has absolutely NOTHING to do with the lie that was started and push throughout congress to go to war in the first place
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Old 12-14-2011, 07:40 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Perhaps you could detail for us the congressional composition over the past 3 years?

You know, the same ones that passed the healthcare reform.......but couldn't end the wars?
How do you expect end to wars? Just "forget" what you did, what you lost and close the books?
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Old 12-14-2011, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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With about 75% of the media being anti-Bush, I'm surprised his approval rating was that high.
Probably 90% of the media was anti-Bush (they are the ones, after all, with the best access to facts). I'm surprised his approval rating was that high too, but for other reasons.
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Old 12-14-2011, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Well Obama has finally drawn the line in the sand and said we are getting out of Iraq... Great news!

Wish it had happened far sooner. Wish Bush never took us there.

Now to get out of Afghanistan.


Iraqi Leader Visits Washington Amid US Troop Drawdown | PRI's The World
uhm

us getting out of iraq by years end....is BUSH'S policy, and BUSH's negotiation

all obama is doing is FOLLOWING bush
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Old 12-14-2011, 08:19 AM
 
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How do you expect end to wars? Just "forget" what you did, what you lost and close the books?
I have no idea what point you are attempting to make.
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Old 12-14-2011, 08:26 AM
 
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In reality, we lost when it came to Iraq, We lost so many lives, the Iraqis lost over 1 million people. there will never be a winner in that equation. This doesn't even look at the trillions+ spent there, the back door deals that had our politicians pocketing millions if not billions at the cost of our young people.

Can he say mission accomplished, I guess so but that would be the reference to the Bush administration getting what they wanted.

Our troops performed well and did what was requested of them, it should have never been asked of them. We have a focus on Afghanistan now which is likely where our focus should have been ( or Saudi Arabia) We have accomplished some good things (for us) but who is to say what it will cost us?

There was definitely no tie or loss, but also not such a great win either.
Nice try at deflection. Try READING my post again. I asked what will Obama declare, not what you think.

Being you posted stats, how about backing them up?

And keep in mind both DEMS AND repubs voter for the actions. Saying it is all Bush's fault is being disingenuous. But, I am not surprised.
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Old 12-14-2011, 08:30 AM
 
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The "lie" had alot to do with the choices that congress made in regards to the war
Only the libs try to re-define words, "it depends what your definition of is, is".

It is proven FACT that Saddam deceived the WORLD about his programs.

it is also a fact that he intended to re-start his nuclear program as soon as the U.N lifted its sanctions on Iraq.
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Old 12-14-2011, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Only the libs try to re-define words, "it depends what your definition of is, is".

It is proven FACT that Saddam deceived the WORLD about his programs.

it is also a fact that he intended to re-start his nuclear program as soon as the U.N lifted its sanctions on Iraq.
It's also a fact that most of the world could coexist perfectly well with Ba'athist Iraq, but neoconized America simply wasn't interested in coexistence.
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