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View Poll Results: Would you rather all the people who work at Walmart be unemployed?
Yes 17 20.48%
No 66 79.52%
Voters: 83. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-07-2012, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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I would prefer all store clerks be organized into one big union so we taxpayers would not have to subsidize Wall Mart by supporting these families on welfare.

I really object to Wall Mart abusing their power by forcing manufactures to meet Wall Mart's prices or go out of business. Wall Mart has created much of our problem with outsourcing to China and other places. No retail chain should have that power and those that abuse it should face anti-trust prosecution. Wall Mart distorts markets on both ends of the transaction and should be broken up by making each store an independent retailer.

I do not shop at Wall mart because for these reasons and because the last time I checked prices and quality against other stores Wall Mart was a bad deal on an individual items. Wall mart, since the founder died, has been a societal and economically bad deal.
I don't agree with your hate of Walmart but can you believe that 14 people have voted to have all those over 1 million employees of Walmart become unemployed? I just looked at that number and can't believe that you haters really hate them so much you would have their employees become unemployed. If you are not one of the 14, excuse me.
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Old 01-07-2012, 10:54 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Walmart Blacklisted By Major Pension Fund Over Poor Labor Practices



"A major pension fund and longtime investor in Walmart has blacklisted the retailing behemoth, citing poor labor practices and the company's anti-union stance as the driving force behind its rejection.
Walmart typically shrugs off criticism of its labor practices as union-driven propaganda and insists that its employees are happy and well-managed, but investing experts say that when one of the largest pension funds in the world divests, the company would be wise to listen to the message. It's the same message the American labor movement has been pushing for decades."


Walmart Blacklisted By Major Pension Fund Over Poor Labor Practices
Is you is or is you not a strong supporter of unions? Your post sounds like you are a supporter.
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Old 01-07-2012, 11:33 PM
 
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how many would have gone out of business even without a walmart opening up?
13
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Old 01-07-2012, 11:42 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I'm not sure any one has brought this point up yet.....a lot of people hate Walmart because of what they do to a small town in a rural area. The whole town is filled with mom and pop businesses that the community have always relied on for goods and services. A lot of those business owners have always planned on retiring some day and passing their business on their children to run it. Walmart comes into town, everyone protests it but, eventually people start shopping there because the prices are just so much lower and everything is under one roof too. Little by little they just put all those small businesses out of business. Then what can those ex-business owners do....go work for Walmart until they're 65 (along with their children that worked at their business and any other employees they may have had). A lot of business owners may have done fine working for themselves but, what they can make as an employee some where (let alone Walmart) is a different story. Maybe they owned a bakery or they were the town butcher....the job MAY get employeed for at Walmart is not the same. The baked goods and a lot of the meat (if not all of it), comes in pre-packaged....all they need is someone to take it out of a box and put it on a shelf. Their skills that they've learned from their business are not needed at that Walmart. What can they do, sell their house (to whom?) and move to the city?....to do what with the skills they know? They're screwed, they just wanted to make it to 65 doing what they've always done and retire but, that all changed and that's why so many hate Walmart. A big department store is one thing but, a super store that has everything (furniture, clothing, auto, food, etc.) is a different ball game. The parking lots are so big that I heard awhile back that they were considering using some of it to sell cars.
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Old 01-08-2012, 12:02 AM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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Sears was once accused of the same thing, as were K-mart, Globe, Fed Mart and the list goes on... This is not something Wal Mart invented, they just took it to a new level. There will be another mega store come along in the future and we will all be bemoaning the loss of the Wal Marts as we now do Montgomery Wards.
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Old 01-08-2012, 06:45 AM
 
Location: Near the water
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Is you is or is you not a strong supporter of unions? Your post sounds like you are a supporter.

My post does not "sound" like anything. You are reaching as you always do, when one posts a link with no other commentary in the post there is nothing there to try to decode.
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Old 01-09-2012, 05:01 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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ROB - You are simply wrong. All the employees of the former Wall Mart conglomerate would go to work at the individual stores for union wages and union benefits. The same would apply to all the other national chains as well. I would like to see our mega businesses split into individual concerns and all our workers organized into the ONE BIG UNION. The differences in prices would be more then made up by the increased wages and employment.
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Old 01-09-2012, 06:00 AM
 
Location: Houston
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I'm not sure any one has brought this point up yet.....a lot of people hate Walmart because of what they do to a small town in a rural area. The whole town is filled with mom and pop businesses that the community have always relied on for goods and services. A lot of those business owners have always planned on retiring some day and passing their business on their children to run it. Walmart comes into town, everyone protests it but, eventually people start shopping there because the prices are just so much lower and everything is under one roof too. Little by little they just put all those small businesses out of business. Then what can those ex-business owners do....go work for Walmart until they're 65 (along with their children that worked at their business and any other employees they may have had). A lot of business owners may have done fine working for themselves but, what they can make as an employee some where (let alone Walmart) is a different story. Maybe they owned a bakery or they were the town butcher....the job MAY get employeed for at Walmart is not the same. The baked goods and a lot of the meat (if not all of it), comes in pre-packaged....all they need is someone to take it out of a box and put it on a shelf. Their skills that they've learned from their business are not needed at that Walmart. What can they do, sell their house (to whom?) and move to the city?....to do what with the skills they know? They're screwed, they just wanted to make it to 65 doing what they've always done and retire but, that all changed and that's why so many hate Walmart. A big department store is one thing but, a super store that has everything (furniture, clothing, auto, food, etc.) is a different ball game. The parking lots are so big that I heard awhile back that they were considering using some of it to sell cars.
Throughout history that is how the world has progressed. You cannot make an omelet without breaking a few eggs.

Wal-Mart has done more to help the poor than any government program.

Ricardo's Theory of Comparative Advantage still rings true.
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Old 01-09-2012, 06:08 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Ridcardo's Theory of Comparative Advantage is self serving BS. It is just an intellectual justification for economic thuggary where the strong devout the weak with government help.
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Old 01-09-2012, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Ridcardo's Theory of Comparative Advantage is self serving BS. It is just an intellectual justification for economic thuggary where the strong devout the weak with government help.
Please, it is probably the most universally respected theory in economics. The fact is assets should be used where they get the most bang for the buck.
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