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Old 12-15-2011, 11:35 AM
 
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Has absolutely nothing to do with atheism. Atheism is not an institution with a political ideology.

Really? All my friends are liberal, and are generous tippers. I'm liberal, and I tip 20-50%. Heck, I've tipped 100% before, and I'm not wealthy. Lying is a sin you know.

Liberals are full of hate? Funny how the only hateful people I've dealt with are Conservatives.

Nope, I support strong immigration laws and I'm tried of jobs being handed over to non-citizens. Another lie from you.


Ah, the no True Scotsman Fallacy. The majority of liberals in this country, and probably worldwide are Christian. I'm liberal, and I'm a Messianic Jew (the modern day equivalent of an Apostle). You, however, bear horribly bad fruit, and therefore behave nothing like Christ.

You continue to bear false witness and violate the 10 commandments, and yet have the audacity to accuse others of not being Christian.

Matt 7: 1 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’


You really need to show some humility and stop judging.
Wow. Sometimes you just have to spell it out for liberals. However, when that occurs, they refuse to face the facts anyway.

1. So you really contend that communist/leftist states do not and did not have specific goals of elimination of Christianity? I think that you need to re-examine your high school education.

Persecution of Christians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2. I already showed you where liberals donate little to charity relative to conservatives. Given that it refutes your contention, you simply chose not to read it or believe it. That is typical of liberals.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...beral_giv.html (broken link)

3. Of course liberals oppose enforcement of immigration. Is is a part of their creed.
http://www.econlib.org/library/Colum...migration.html

4. Of course liberals are meaner than conservatives. It has been proven. They are just unhappy, mean people as an aggregate.

http://isites.harvard.edu/fs/docs/ic...%20Happier.pdf


5. Of course most Christians are conservatives.
http://www.christianpost.com/news/ho...sure-up-26175/


6. Of course liberals are elitist snobs. Everyone knows that.

http://www.splicetoday.com/politics-...ative-illusion

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Old 12-15-2011, 11:38 AM
 
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Wow.

1. So you really contend that communist/leftist states do not and did not have specific goals of elimination of Christianity?

That isn't what you claimed or said, Mr. Backpedaler.

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I think that you need to re-examine your high school education.
I think you need to get one.
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Old 12-15-2011, 02:43 PM
 
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That isn't what you claimed or said, Mr. Backpedaler.



I think you need to get one.


Again- I will copy the post above, as reading does not appear to be your strong suit.

Wow. Sometimes you just have to spell it out for liberals. However, when that occurs, they refuse to face the facts anyway.

1. So you really contend that communist/leftist states do not and did not have specific goals of elimination of Christianity? I think that you need to re-examine your high school education.

Persecution of Christians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2. I already showed you where liberals donate little to charity relative to conservatives. Given that it refutes your contention, you simply chose not to read it or believe it. That is typical of liberals.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...beral_giv.html (broken link)

3. Of course liberals oppose enforcement of immigration. Is is a part of their creed.
http://www.econlib.org/library/Colum...migration.html

4. Of course liberals are meaner than conservatives. It has been proven. They are just unhappy, mean people as an aggregate.

http://isites.harvard.edu/fs/docs/ic...%20Happier.pdf


5. Of course most Christians are conservatives.
http://www.christianpost.com/news/ho...sure-up-26175/


6. Of course liberals are elitist snobs. Everyone knows that.

http://www.splicetoday.com/politics-...ative-illusion
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Old 12-15-2011, 03:36 PM
 
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The last time I watched the Republican debates, all I saw was a sea of white; no signs of minorities anywhere in the audience. For a moment, I thought I was watching a United Russia rally.
Then you saw how Herman Cain was treated. From what I hear it's not easy being a black Republican. Even their own people devour them. Or Libs pit them against the Republicans, claiming the want to take away their "FREEBIES"...................... those bad Republicans.
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Old 12-15-2011, 11:29 PM
 
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Wow. Sometimes you just have to spell it out for liberals. However, when that occurs, they refuse to face the facts anyway.

1. So you really contend that communist/leftist states do not and did not have specific goals of elimination of Christianity? I think that you need to re-examine your high school education.

Persecution of Christians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2. I already showed you where liberals donate little to charity relative to conservatives. Given that it refutes your contention, you simply chose not to read it or believe it. That is typical of liberals.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...beral_giv.html (broken link)

3. Of course liberals oppose enforcement of immigration. Is is a part of their creed.
Anthony de Jasay, Immigration: What is the Liberal Stand? | Library of Economics and Liberty

4. Of course liberals are meaner than conservatives. It has been proven. They are just unhappy, mean people as an aggregate.

http://isites.harvard.edu/fs/docs/ic...%20Happier.pdf


5. Of course most Christians are conservatives.
How Does the Faith of Republicans, Democrats Measure Up?, Christian News


6. Of course liberals are elitist snobs. Everyone knows that.

Liberal Elitism Is Not a Conservative Illusion | Politics & Media | SPLICETODAY.com
I'm sorry but no amount of FOX sponsored talking points will change the fact that Liberals are more Christian in nature than conservatives. I rely on the scriptures alone for direction.

Jesus was probably the most liberal man to walk this planet. His whole message to mankind was to "love your neighbor as you love yourself" and "do unto others as you would have them do unto you". These are expressly liberal ideologies that conservatives despise. Jesus also said "It is easier for a camel to enter through the eye of an needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God". We all know how conservatives worship the rich and curse the poor.

If Jesus was around today, conservatives would dismiss him as a hippy, a socialist, and a communist and have him crucified all over again. In my opinion, right wing conservatives are disciples of Satan on earth. They are the modern day generation of vipers that were prophesied in the book of Revelations.
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Old 12-16-2011, 07:11 AM
 
Location: San Diego California
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Was not so long ago Christians were doing the same thing. In a few hundred years perhaps Muslims will give up persecuting witches and graduate to child molestation.
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Old 12-16-2011, 07:18 AM
 
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Was not so long ago Christians were doing the same thing.
Right here in America (Salem...). It was terribly wrong. There is no New Testament call for the death of witches and sorcerers. In fact, Simon the sorcerer himself became a Christian apparently, even though he was strongly rebuked for offering money in order to receive the power of the Holy Spirit (old habits die hard, even for the saved...). Christians have absolutely no Biblical right to kill witches.
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Old 12-16-2011, 07:40 AM
 
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If conservatives have their way, we'll see this in America again before long.
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Old 12-16-2011, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Hawkeye2009 - six shots at Liberals and six misses.

I do not support Christianity or condemn Christianity.

I have provided room to live in my own home to friends in need

I am opposed to immigration. We need to support our own people first.

I do not consider myself to be mean or mean spirited. Neither do my friends. I am also not unhappy because I have these friends.

Most conservatives are just as delusional about republicanism as they are about religion. In either case they believe in things that are completely unproven.

I have never been an elitist or a snob. I am the kind of people the snobbish elites try to avoid.

OH, I am way left of Liberal on economics and way Right of conservative on individual rights and responsibilities.

FWIW - I despise the behavior of these Islamic fanatics.
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Old 12-16-2011, 11:11 AM
 
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Again- I will copy the post above, as reading does not appear to be your strong suit.
Well then you had better tell the people who pay me six figures to do it all day long then. I am sure they will appreciate knowing that I've been fooling them big time for 10 years.

I've taken the liberty of not including your quotes that are just too stupid to warrant a response.

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1. So you really contend that communist/leftist states do not and did not have specific goals of elimination of Christianity?
No, I did not contend that. I merely stated that it was not a goal of socialism, which you incorrectly stated and lumped in with everything else. Yes, there were totalitarian states that were hostile NOT just to Christianity but to other religions as well. That does not help your argument, however.

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2. I already showed you where liberals donate little to charity relative to conservatives. Given that it refutes your contention, you simply chose not to read it or believe it. That is typical of liberals.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...beral_giv.html (broken link)
As someone has already pointed out, this doesn't help your argument either, even if true, since it is far more likely that someone who cannot afford to donate would be liberal rather than conservative.

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3. Of course liberals oppose enforcement of immigration. Is is a part of their creed.
http://www.econlib.org/library/Colum...migration.html
Again, as someone has ALREADY pointed out to you, this is not true of liberals in general. I, for example, am very much a social liberal and I am very much in favor of enforcement of EXISTING laws on immigration.

I am also AGAINST unconstitutional and unecessary laws on immigration.

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