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Old 12-14-2011, 01:20 PM
 
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money is the root of all evil...
You have that backwards. Poverty is the root of all evil. Lack of money brings out evil in people.
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Old 12-14-2011, 01:22 PM
 
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agreed. and the people that have the most are the angriest, chip on the shoulder and paranoid.
Wrong. It has been proven that the more affluent are happier over all. Less worries about money will make you happier.
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Old 12-14-2011, 01:23 PM
 
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I usually find poor(er) people to be the greediest... As they're usually the ones whining and asking someone else to pay for everything while they don't usually want to put much effort into it themselves.
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Old 12-14-2011, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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funny i didn't choose to be gay so if you're angry about the existence of homosexuality than you need to blame that very nature, or God.

also is it greedy when straight people are recognized?

and a society is made up of EVERYONE. ALL societies need a basic social safety net. that isn't an 'entitlement'. no one is immune from misfortune. your mentality is the very one i'm talking about. you're been taught that goodness is evil and lash out immediately in hatred and self righteousness towards that goodness.

again, now i understand nazi germany.
funny...I dint mention gay...

I mentioned that it is greedy to DEMAND the GOVERNMENT recognize and benefit your love

I dint mention gay or straight

you fail
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Old 12-14-2011, 01:25 PM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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why is it that in the richest nation in the world people are so harsh towards others, self righteous, hard hearted and greedy and this goes NOT just for the one percent. (though it definitely includes them) but many in the middle class as well.

people are bloodthirsty, self righteous, have an animal survival mentality all the time.

there are other nations where this level of Harshness doesn't exist. could it be that our hatred of socialism (which really means realizing that we're all a part of a community of souls and that we're all really one in nature) is the reason behind this.

if our friends and neighbors aren't doing well than WE aren't doing well... because that's the definition of doing well... didn't Jesus say that you're supposed to love others MORE than yourself? wouldn't this mean that EVERYONE"S well being is VERY IMPORTANT and SHOULD be to a truly SPIRITUAL SOCIETY... in american these teachings of Jesus are called evil by many of the religious right.

and this harsh animal mentality is called christ like and holy.

could this be what the bible meant about people becoming lovers of evil and believing that evil is good and that good is evil.

many people in american don't even know what goodness is because goodness has become demonized and evil has been thought of as what is good...

why is this?
There is nothing wrong with wanting to be successful and prosperous. Usually the ones who have the point of view that everyone should "love" one another and "share" are the ones who have nothing to contribute or are too lazy to put out any effort and just want to share.

The community is strong when everyone pulls their weight and works hard to be a contributing member of society. People who are successful and hard working do not look for a hand out. They find a way. This is what our NATION was founded on. Strength, honor, integrity and the RIGHT to work hard to achieve what you want. Not to be entitled to share what other people have.

I understand that in certain circumstances people must receive charity. That's fine. A measure of a good, civilized society is to provide for those who cannot provide for themselves. This does not, however, mean that people should be able to receive charity simply because they don't want to work.

People who have their hands out constantly do not contribute to the well being of the community. They drain it.

If you want to be part of my world, pick up a shovel, and make yourself useful. That's the only way I'll have any respect for you. (figuratively speaking, of course).

20yrsinBranson
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Old 12-14-2011, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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why is it that in the richest nation in the world people are so harsh towards others, self righteous, hard hearted and greedy and this goes NOT just for the one percent. (though it definitely includes them) but many in the middle class as well.

people are bloodthirsty, self righteous, have an animal survival mentality all the time.
What are you basing this on and are you an American?
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Old 12-14-2011, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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and a society is made up of EVERYONE. ALL societies need a basic social safety net. that isn't an 'entitlement'. no one is immune from misfortune. your mentality is the very one i'm talking about. you're been taught that goodness is evil and lash out immediately in hatred and self righteousness towards that goodness.

again, now i understand nazi germany.
nazi germany was SOCIALIST

NO one should have a safety net..NO FAILED BUSINESS should be bailout out..either you make it or you dont

either you have what it takes to LIVE or you dont

evolution baby...survival of the fittest..otherwise you are the weakest link
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Old 12-14-2011, 01:28 PM
 
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what does being religious have to do with living in accordance with DIVINE PRINCIPLE. NADA

being religious is NOT synonomous with being GOOD. being good means actually BEING GOOD.

religion (which is not spirituality) has been CORRUPTED by the merchant class in this country. religion in the right is the EXACT OPPOSITE of the universal spirituality that mystics and Jesus were talking about.

and yes you are correct the right tends to be more opposite of true spirituality (what we refer to as religious)

also i have LOTS to show for my life. i am NOT upset or angry that i don't have more. I don't want more.
I'm not a religious person and would agree that good is good and organized religion is something entirely different. You are the one on here talking about Jesus, the Bible and what not.

Your posts are angry. If you don't want more, why then the idiotic socialist posts supporting wealth redistribution?
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Old 12-14-2011, 01:30 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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You don't understand the definition of "greed". Greed is demanding an unearned benefit. It is not greedy to earn as much money as possible. It is greedy to demand some of that money without doing anything to earn it.
Haven't bothered to check a dictionary, eh?

greed: Intense and selfish desire for something, esp. wealth, power, or food.

No mention of whether those things are earned or not.
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Old 12-14-2011, 01:31 PM
 
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There is nothing wrong with wanting to be successful and prosperous. Usually the ones who have the point of view that everyone should "love" one another and "share" are the ones who have nothing to contribute or are too lazy to put out any effort and just want to share.

The community is strong when everyone pulls their weight and works hard to be a contributing member of society. People who are successful and hard working do not look for a hand out. They find a way. This is what our NATION was founded on. Strength, honor, integrity and the RIGHT to work hard to achieve what you want. Not to be entitled to share what other people have.

I understand that in certain circumstances people must receive charity. That's fine. A measure of a good, civilized society is to provide for those who cannot provide for themselves. This does not, however, mean that people should be able to receive charity simply because they don't want to work.

People who have their hands out constantly do not contribute to the well being of the community. They drain it.

If you want to be part of my world, pick up a shovel, and make yourself useful. That's the only way I'll have any respect for you. (figuratively speaking, of course).

20yrsinBranson
well, you'd be wrong. i have worked full time since age 14. i am now 34. i have two jobs, two bachelors degrees and i never said that it was greedy to MAKE MONEY. what IS greedy is when the poverty of others doensn't matter to you and you think there shouldn't be a basic social safety net.

i don't make a lot of money, but i make enough to pay for the things that i need in life, plus a little extra. i make 33,000 a year and am single with a simple one bedroom apartment, a decent care, tv, computer, cell phone etc. food every night. I think that i have plenty.

i donate to charity monthly with both money and time. i do believe that EVERYONE in this country should have BASIC NEEDS MET. which means basic housing, nothing fancy, access to public trasportation, food, access to basic medical care and they can use the library for computer access and entertainment etc. i want a good SOCIETY, i want to live in a good world and actually think caring about OTHERS should be a TOP PRIORITY.

i am going to grad school to train as a pastoral counselor, am still considering becoming a monk in the future because i already live like a monastic anyway and the lifestyle sounds appealing to me, part of it is the vow of poverty where only your basic needs are met and your life would involve helping out the community and connecting with God.
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