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Old 12-14-2011, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Has your life been altered due to it? Do people realize that it has inhibited potential attacks on Americans?

I don't understand why people have a problem with it.
Maybe this will help you understand why people have a problem with the PATRIOT ACT. It steps on the rights of American citizens. If you don't get it, maybe should should consider changing your screen name


US Constitution vs. The Patriot Act

Federal judge rules 2 Patriot Act provisions unconstitutional - CNN
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Old 12-14-2011, 03:45 PM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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I dunno......maybe because it violates the 4th Amendment...You know, this thing called the US Constitution....Remember that?

I like how they named it the "Patriot Act"...There is nothing patriotic about it.

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Old 12-14-2011, 03:50 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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This is the most ridiculous thread ever. It would be like asking Germans in the 1940's why they would have a problem with a concentration camp as long as they weren't taken to one, yet.
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Old 12-14-2011, 03:57 PM
 
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Default The Constitution is held in abeyance!!!

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Has your life been altered due to it? Do people realize that it has inhibited potential attacks on Americans?

I don't understand why people have a problem with it.
Our civil rights can be abridged in a nanosecond under the USA PATRIOT ACT. If you're familiar with Orwell's 1984, our rights are not too far removed from the Orwell's fictional dystopia.


USA using Patriot Act against its own citizens - YouTube

Gestapo - Documentary - Part 1 - YouTube
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Old 12-14-2011, 04:00 PM
 
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Has your life been altered due to it? Do people realize that it has inhibited potential attacks on Americans?

I don't understand why people have a problem with it.
I don't understand why some people are so willing to trade liberty for a false sense of security. If you feel so weak that you must surrender your liberty why not move to a nation that offers little liberty instead of destroying our US Constitution?
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Old 12-14-2011, 04:04 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I don't understand why some people are so willing to trade liberty for a false sense of security. If you feel so weak that you must surrender your liberty why not move to a nation that offers little liberty instead of destroying our US Constitution?
If people are so pussified that they are willing to give up everything that their predecessors won for them, then maybe they should just take a rope into the bathroom with them next time they go. At least that way they won't have to live their lives being so terrified of their own shadow that they can't come out from under their bed.
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Old 12-14-2011, 04:06 PM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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I don't understand why some people are so willing to trade liberty for a false sense of security. If you feel so weak that you must surrender your liberty why not move to a nation that offers little liberty instead of destroying our US Constitution?

“Anyone who trades liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor security”

- Benjamin Franklin
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Old 12-14-2011, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Has your life been altered due to it? Do people realize that it has inhibited potential attacks on Americans?

I don't understand why people have a problem with it.
"Why don't you like it when your neighbors dog poops on your lawn?"

"Why don't you like it when you get hit?"

"Why don't you like it when you get charged?"
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Old 12-14-2011, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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1) The brokerage specifically cited the PATRIOT Act in their letter.

2) When I relocated, I successfully opened a bank account and they never had any objection to addresses not matching - it's not even clear whether they pulled my credit report. (At least the copy I later requested made no mention of it.)
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What happens when a corporation wants to open a brokerage account? Do they pull credit reports on the principals? What hoops do you have to go through?
Customers opening accounts at brokerage firms must supply financial information that satisfies the "Know Your Customer" requirement for routine purposes under the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority (FinRA) Rule 2090.

Broker-Dealers Prepare for ' Ambiguous' KYC Regulations | Fox Rothschild LLP
Verifying Customer Records to Prevent Tax Evasion
Know-Your-Customer and Suitability Obligations | Securities Law Updates – Hull Evans & Kob LLP

The USAPATRIOT Act also has rules for financial institutions to be able to verify a person's identity.
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Old 12-14-2011, 05:43 PM
 
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Would it shock and amaze you to know that MSNBC lied? The USAPATRIOT Act has never been ruled unconstitutional by any US court. The FISA provisions in the USAPATRIOT Act, cited by the article you posted, still exist.

Mayfield won his $2 million suit in court because "FBI agents had made inaccurate and ambiguous statements to a federal judge to get arrest and criminal search warrants against Mayfield." It had absolutely nothing to do with the USAPATRIOT Act.
Would you like to try again?

And P.S. I asked a civil question. If you can't respond without the snide tone, don't bother responding a all.
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