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Old 12-28-2011, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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I don't have the time at this moment to research and bring proof that other nations' leaders said that BL was dead years ago, but I know they have and so this does give one pause, the way our govt. handled it and so conveniently say they buried the body at sea.

However, where is the outcry from the world? We get news online and I would hope that we'd be hearing about this in a loud way, were he not just killed, and yet....we do have the biggest liars ever, in the oval office at this time and from what we've had in the past this actually says a lot. So...we can't possibly know for sure.
can you decode this, I cannot follow your logic.
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Old 12-28-2011, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Pleasant Ridge, Cincinnati, OH
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Wars that ensure the trade in oil as the US dollar do make the country richer.
I don't think they do, especially in the long run. Creating money in the US involves borrowing. The borrowing is necessarily paid for with taxes. Note that the per-capita tax burden has increased fairly steadily since the dollar was decoupled with gold in 1944 (see Bretton Woods). Since that decoupling, the government was able to borrow dollars (for wars and other things) without them being backed any real commodity... so it has a near limitless short-term revenue source. Interestingly, if you consider the same period you may note that long periods without major military operations are absent. Note that this was not the case before the Federal Reserve was around to provide easy money to the US war machine (pre-1913).


Wars cost money. Imagine how much wealthier the country might be if the trillions of dollars used to finance the US wars in the Middle East were instead left in the hands of the people, where it could purchase goods and services that people actually wanted or be invested in businesses providing those goods and services. Imagine if the soldiers who lost their lives were able to instead produce wealth and income through private employment.

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Old 12-28-2011, 08:55 PM
 
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Yeah that trillion dollar stimulous really helped out the people.

Oil importers have to puchase dollars to buy the oil up. The exporters then are left with piles of dollars they reinvest in the US. If nobody needed dollars to purchase oil with and didn't have the dollars to send to the US we would be in a world of hurt.
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Old 12-28-2011, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Pleasant Ridge, Cincinnati, OH
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Yeah that trillion dollar stimulous really helped out the people.
Not likely... and I'm pretty sure that they've printed multiple trillions of dollars now. I wish I could make money from nothing... must be nice.
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Old 12-28-2011, 09:42 PM
 
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The fed has pinned itself into a corner and now has to print up the money non stop.

Currency Wars Update | ZeroHedge
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Old 03-04-2012, 05:32 PM
 
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interesting piece on bin laden not being dumped at sea:

WikiLeaks Email: Bin Laden’s Corpse Not Dumped at Sea -- News from Antiwar.com

it certainly would make more sense that he would be brought back rather than dumped at sea.

it is getting increasingly difficult to try and separate the truth from the lies.
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Old 03-04-2012, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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interesting piece on bin laden not being dumped at sea:

WikiLeaks Email: Bin Laden’s Corpse Not Dumped at Sea -- News from Antiwar.com

it certainly would make more sense that he would be brought back rather than dumped at sea.

was anybody buying the "religious respect" angle?
Nope, dumping at sea prevents the Islam radicals from having a rallying point. The unknown quality of it works against them using his death as a recruiting tool.
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Old 03-04-2012, 05:49 PM
 
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it certainly would make more sense that he would be brought back rather than dumped at sea.

it is getting increasingly difficult to try and separate the truth from the lies.
Ask the Oceanic Whitetips.
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Old 03-04-2012, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Evergreen, Colorado
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The Bin Laden death ruse was initiated 5 days after Obama's long form birth certificate was released on April 27, 2011 and countless computer imaging experts discovered it to be a forgery just like Sheriff Arpaio's investigation revealed on March 1. Things were heating up in the media and at the White House as questions mounted over the birth certificate forgery issue so a diversion had to happen and when it did, the media buried the story and focused on Bin Laden's alleged death. That is what really happened.
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Old 03-04-2012, 06:11 PM
 
Location: southern california
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i suspect they made a deal. bin laden is part of something like the witness protection program.
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