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I would normally make some joke about trailers and KKK rallies too, but since Obama backers call anybody who says they don't like him a racist these days (why, I'll never know), someone would misconstrue the joke as actually leveling that claim against you.
He's heard it before, which is why i was mocking the stupidity of his comment. If he'd said it facetiously, that's one thing. But he said it pretty matter of factly. And if the guy is as informed as i think he is, it's just an outright lie.
That said, i agree with you. I'm certainly attracted.
The people who say the Republican party needs to go further to the right apparently wasn't paying attention in 2006.
The reason the Democrats took control of the government at that point was because they trotted out centrists. Independents like centrists. Centrists make sense to most of us. The Democrats would have NEVER taken most of those seats in those districts with a liberal, just like Republicans will NEVER take many very important seats in other districts with a conservative. A centrist, on the other hand? A centrist can win almost anywhere.
The problem isn't that the GOP isn't far enough to the right - the problem is, in response to losing all those seats, the GOP drifted even FURTHER right than they were, and misconstrued their victories last year as a sign that that's what the people wanted, instead of realizing people were just sending a message to the Democrats who failed to live up to even 2% of their promises.
I've said that i'm willing to sacrifice a few election cycles where Democrats lose EVERY SINGLE SEAT so that Republicans can have all of the power to legislate everything they've ever dreamed of doing. I was hoping that would happen back in 2004.
To me, it's the easiest way to relegate the Republican Party to an eternal trash heap.
I've said that i'm willing to sacrifice a few election cycles where Democrats lose EVERY SINGLE SEAT so that Republicans can have all of the power to legislate everything they've ever dreamed of doing. I was hoping that would happen back in 2004.
To me, it's the easiest way to relegate the Republican Party to an eternal trash heap.
The nation would likely cease to exist and the apocalypse would be reigned in if the GOP had total control again
Though the thing is the american people have ADD and quickly forget what happens the week before and it's been happening for years. An (R) gets elected, screws everything up so they go (D) who fixes things. Then the people feel it's "safe" to vote (R) again who then screws up the nation, and the cycle continues.
The GOP is akin to the "walking Dead".
They move, they eat, and they make noises, still brain dead for the most part.
They have endorsed the most divisive, lying, hypocritical people money can buy and are now stuck in the middle of nowhere because everyone sees the pathetic people they have conjured up to lead the country.
Idiots who tell us "corporations are people","abolish S.S.,the EPA, Dept of Education".
The historic disparity in wealth and the continuing decline of the middle class is because "we don't want to be rich".
We should continue to give tax breaks to the rich, because they won't spend that money elsewhere, invest it somewhere, or just hold on to it. No, they'll grant the peons jobs, they are the "job creators".
Health care of any sort should only be for those who can afford it, even if our political viewpoint is to eliminate employer provided health care.
The GOP can scream Muslin, Socialist, Un-American until the cows come home. The only idiots that are listening are those complaining about food stamps, while collecting unemployment, S.S. disability, and Medicare.
The majority of sane people will re-elect our current President.
There is no other rational choice.
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So I'm reading up on all the political happenings of the week (I adopt a philosophy that Sunday is the day when Christians go listen to a bunch of BS, so I'll follow suit and play catch up on politics on it)....
All this Gingrich as the front-runner stuff, I just don't understand it.
Obama has failed as a president. I think most rational people can agree on that - and even some irrational, aka the extreme right. But I don't think the GOP gets that if they want us independents to come out and replace him, they've got to put somebody compelling out there.
If the name of the horse they trot out is Bachmann, Gingrich, Perry, or Romney...this country's getting another 4 years of the same incompetent guy we've already got. I mean, at least the current guy's got a smokin' hot wife.
There is no way I (or many independents) are going to hold our noses and vote for a complete whackjob (Bachmann), an invisible sky fairy obsessing freak (Perry), a magic underwear wearing sky fairy obsessing freak who couldn't even beat McCain 4 years ago (Romney), or a philandering, dirty ass snake in the grass (Gingrich). It'll never happen.
Paul would mop the floor with Obama if he had the nomination and could take center stage where people could actually hear him - unlike how it is today where the GOP and Democratic parties pay off the media to keep any mention of him buried. Huntsman might be able to pull it off due to lack of name recognition (ala Clinton in 92), even if he is essentially just Romney in a slightly less perfectly tailored suit.
The "frontrunners"? Not a chance in hell. And with the Des Moines Register starting off the season with the Romney nomination....I'm not sure the GOP or its backers are going to "get" it and put someone up that's going to beat O. You'd think they'd have learned by now.
Do you really think that economy is the only problem today? Paul has a good grip on all that crap but for some reason he really doesn't have a very good hand on anything to do with foreign policy. I guess you are right that he could handle economy better than Obama but the foreign policy would be just as bad, if not worse.
Do all independents think the way about Christians as you do? I sure am glad that I finally registered when I did so people wouldn't tell me, at primaries, you can't vote since you didn't declare. Is there a chance that you live in a state that doesn't use closed primary? There are some, you know.
Why didn't some independents try for the Republican nomination since you think they are the only thinkers around. Oh yeah, it is that old closed primary thing.
Hey, now that I have had my rant let me tell you that I am not in total disagreement with you about that herd. I guess we will just have to blame it all on the fact that nobody else wanted the job. I will say that any of them would be an improvement over the progressive in office now and may be able to stop some of the march toward progressivism he has going so well now.
Some mates of mine and I were having that same discussion not too far back. We couldn't figure it out, either. I mean, usually a 3rd party candidate is dead in the water in this country (yet another reason why it's doomed to fail - the 2 party system). Perot's the only one who had a shot at it, and people ran from him when they thought he went nuts with his stories about people stalking his family and breaking into his home (then it comes to light after the elections that that's exactly what happened and he wasn't crazy after all :P). Paul has that same kind of vibe to where he could probably make a really good go of it, but no mention of doing so. Which is odd, because he doesn't fit in the Republican mold - at all.
If Paul doesn't fit the Republican mold at all, maybe he and Obama have an agreement that he will run third party in order to take enough votes from the other party to guarantee Obama's return.
In order to win, the republicans will have to find someone who isn't a retread, a flaming loon, or carrying more baggage than Air Force One will handle; someone who believes in equality for all citizens be they male, female , straight, gay, and any color under the rainbow; and someone who appeals to the youth of America and all ethnic groups.
A lot of us have been saying this for several years now, and been laughed at by those who truly believe that America is radically right-wing, even in the face of a seven point lead by Obama in the 2008 election.
Keep on keeping on, republican party, if you don't want a chance at governing again. Obama is getting ready to blow your socks off in less than a year, and there's not a damned thing you can do about it. All you can do is start working on 2016.
I haven't yet determined that he will allow me to vote next fall but if he does I really don't believe he will worry about 2016. If he returns in 2013 I think he can carry out what he has started all the way. You do understand what I mean, I hope.
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