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Actually, S. 1867 does reference the Taliban, specifically.
Next time you might want to actually read the legislation.
As I said in my previous post, by passing S. 1867 with a veto-proof majority in the Senate, and only six votes shy of a veto-proof majority in the House, Congress is reaffirming that the US is still in a state of war with both al Qaeda and the Taliban, specifically. At the same time they are ensuring that Obama will not veto the bill. No President is going to veto a bill that passes Congress with a veto-proof majority, or just short of one. That would be politically stupid, and a waste of time.
Florida Bob is not one to ever let facts get in the way of his opinions, ever.
Actually, S. 1867 does reference the Taliban, specifically.
Next time you might want to actually read the legislation.
As I said in my previous post, by passing S. 1867 with a veto-proof majority in the Senate, and only six votes shy of a veto-proof majority in the House, Congress is reaffirming that the US is still in a state of war with both al Qaeda and the Taliban, specifically. At the same time they are ensuring that Obama will not veto the bill. No President is going to veto a bill that passes Congress with a veto-proof majority, or just short of one. That would be politically stupid, and a waste of time.
I don't know why my search did not find the word "Taliban", but regardless, I hope you don't read Sect 1031 (b)(2) to mean all Taliban people participated in or supporting terrorist acts. Now, Al Qaeda ...it's likely that whatever is left of them, do.
The Taliban is the enemy. Biden is lacking common sense. The taliban is an extremist group that kills civilians ,very radical pushing sharia law against women and is an evil force in the world.
They are supporting terrorism against us.
Biden is making himself to be an idiot as usual and anyone who backs up what he says sounds just as bad.
Ask the soldiers who fought against the taliban? What do you think they will say? Friend or foe?
You need to do some research before you spout off on this one. He's right. Most people who are informed about the situation over there, regardless of political affiliation, agree with him on this.
So ... Its our friends ... our buddies the Taliban ... who are killing our troops ...
We were allies with the USSR in WWII and then we fought a very long and expensive Cold War with them during which we also negotiated on different subjects with them. So why is it hypocritical to seek a negotiation with the Taliban?
We did the same when fighting various tribes of Indians in the U.S. West. Fought and negotiated against groups who also targeted civilians. Philippine Insurrectos leader Emilio Aguinaldo, who fought the U.S. in our other guerrilla war to include a significant number of Muslims, later became President of the Phillippines and worked alongside U.S. occupation forces.
Taliban harbored Al-Queda. I do recall President Bush saying that states which did so would be declared hostile but I think we have learned a great deal of the limits and consequences of projecing overt U.S. power. In the Cold War days they would have been infiltrated and selectively assassinated.
US and Taliban are negotiating - and that is OK (aside: we, israelis, etc - everyone negotiates with terrorists excepting when asking for votes). Just dont sell us on Taliban not being one of the major reasons we are there now since the AQ people have been reduced to a handful a while back.
“A person who was a part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners, including any person who has committed a belligerent act or has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy forces.”
"So the vice president claims the Taliban is not really a U.S. enemy. But a bill just passed Congress says any form of support to the Taliban would effectively make anyone a terrorist stripped of their civilian rights and detained indefinitely under military jurisdiction."
OK, I was wrong on that. Thanks for clearing it up.
I would say that makes it a worse bill than I thought it was, and you are right, Biden ought to be made to explain himself--but for supporting the bill, not for his off-the-cuff comment.
Osama bin Laden created al Qaeda in 1994, six years after the CIA left Afghanistan, and five years after the USSR fell. al Qaeda had absolutely nothing to do with the Soviet Union. It has been a terrorist organization from the beginning, receiving the majority of its funding from Saudi charities. Again, the CIA had nothing to do with al Qaeda or Osama.
Osama and his evil cohorts didn't like the idea of the infidels [US] being on Holy ground when Saddam invaded Kuwait. The Saudis invited US and rejected Osama and his fighters which has more to do with his terrorist group.He figured if he brought [in his own mind] one super power down it would work again.Now he swims with the fishy's along with his dream of a world united by Radical Islam.
Osama and his evil cohorts didn't like the idea of the infidels [US] being on Holy ground when Saddam invaded Kuwait. The Saudis invited US and rejected Osama and his fighters which has more to do with his terrorist group.He figured if he brought [in his own mind] one super power down it would work again.Now he swims with the fishy's along with his dream of a world united by Radical Islam.
That is very true, and Osama bin Laden's biggest beef was with Saudi Arabia. The US and our "western allies" were added on to his February 23, 1998 Fatah only after he expounded upon his greviances with Saudi Arabia.
Most are probably not aware that Saudi Arabia has been hit repeatedly by al Qaeda since 1998. More than any other nation.
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