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Trying to make wealthy people pay for it only because they are wealthy is wrong and should never be allowed.
Why is that "wrong" ? Social Security is a form of welfare; why let wealthy people opt out of paying welfare, while the middle class has to pony up for all these poor people?
1) Harry Reid is blocking the full year extention of the payroll tax cut. The House passed the provision, including a real jobs program via Keystone. Why don't the Demcrates want jobs and a full year tax relief for the middle class?
2) American's greatly seem to ignore that this puts Medicare further down the road toward insolvency. Seems a significant collecting Medicare are part of the middle class and have been paying into the system for decades.
So, why do Harry Reid and Obama want to destroy Medicare?
You can only rob Peter to pay Pual for so long. The people are fed up. If Harry Reid wanted to cooperate 900+ days ago and actually pass a balanced budget this may have already been paid for and not happening. Harry Reid is the obstructionist in chief for Obama's platform of running against Congress. It does not benefit Obama if Reid & Co. actually put this country before the Obama agenda.
Frankly I'd like to see it expire and force Congress to CUT SPENDING & BALANCE THE BUDGET NOW!
But you'll never hear anything about that from the numbskull libs on this forum. Their ignorance is astounding. The march like lemmings right off a cliff, won't listen to FACTS, and all the while start a boatload of threads as if by posting more BULL**** they will eventually win something. Maybe a participation trophy or something.
Why is that "wrong" ? Social Security is a form of welfare; why let wealthy people opt out of paying welfare, while the middle class has to pony up for all these poor people?
When you pay into the social security program all your working life then its not welfare ... you are collecting benefits you paid for. Anyone who ops out of ss should not be eligable to collect the benefit.
No Im quite aware . Thats why I started investing for retirement 20 yrs ago. The pitiful $1000 a month if it still exists by the time I retire will hardly pay prop taxes by then. Cant scrap the program thou as many folks just **** away all they make and still live paycheck to paycheck even in their forties.
When you pay into the social security program all your working life then its not welfare ... you are collecting benefits you paid for.
It IS a form of welfare, because most people in the social security program are collecting benefits they didn't pay for.
Say you allowed everyone to opt out; then you'd have nothing but low income people. The more people you allow to opt-out, the faster the system will collapse. No rational person earning over $50k would stay in the social security system, and it would go broke taxing the wages of poor people.
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Anyone who ops out of ss should not be eligable to collect the benefit.
Great idea. Let everyone opt out, and the system collapses, and current retirees stop getting benefits.
News Flash, Soc Sec is NOT a Retirement income, it is only a bare subsistence amount and in many cases, not even that.
People can call it what ever but the facts are that millions of people either live off welfare exclusively or heavily depenant on it. Some people call this retirement income ... and it is.
It IS a form of welfare, because most people in the social security program are collecting benefits they didn't pay for.
Say you allowed everyone to opt out; then you'd have nothing but low income people. The more people you allow to opt-out, the faster the system will collapse. No rational person earning over $50k would stay in the social security system, and it would go broke taxing the wages of poor people.
No one should be allowed to opt out of social security.
Do you have any credible source of data that shows "most people in the social security program are collecting benefits they didn't pay for"?
It IS a form of welfare, because most people in the social security program are collecting benefits they didn't pay for.
Say you allowed everyone to opt out; then you'd have nothing but low income people. The more people you allow to opt-out, the faster the system will collapse. No rational person earning over $50k would stay in the social security system, and it would go broke taxing the wages of poor people.
Great idea. Let everyone opt out, and the system collapses, and current retirees stop getting benefits.
This is not true ... most people collecting SS have paid into it. What you receive is based on what you put in ... remember its tracked using your SS number.
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