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Old 12-20-2011, 02:28 PM
 
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Go do a google. Minority owned and women owned businesses get special treatment from states/fed regarding bonds and in many times the bond is "waived" so they can get a foot in the door.

No, it's not a level playing field by any means.

Thats gross
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Old 12-20-2011, 02:28 PM
 
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Go do a google. Minority owned and women owned businesses get special treatment from states/fed regarding bonds and in many times the bond is "waived" so they can get a foot in the door.

No, it's not a level playing field by any means.
The federal gov't is REQUIRED to give a certain amount of work to "minorities" under the 8A set aside program administered by the Small Business Admin.

As with most gov't programs people have learned how to scam it.
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Old 12-20-2011, 02:32 PM
 
Location: California
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Well IMO it's stupid. All AA put asides are stupid.
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Old 12-20-2011, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Texas
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What's to stop someone from just saying they're gay to be eligible for this?
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Old 12-20-2011, 02:46 PM
 
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What's to stop someone from just saying they're gay to be eligible for this?
Maybe they show you erotic videos and measure your response with some type of machine.

Moonbattery I tell you.
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Old 12-20-2011, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Wow , no bond? Ive never bid a fed funded job that didnt require a bond.
For years we refused to bid any work that required a performance bond or we took exception to the requirement. Many of the procurements are so badly written or managed that the contractor can never be completely sure of the exact scope or requirements. The contracting officers and the technical folks get into a contest, and everyone loses.

Billions of fed dollars are spent without performance bonds.
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Old 12-20-2011, 02:55 PM
 
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Guess Im out of the loop. Havnt done fed work in quite a while. Damn paperwork takes longer then the job in my field.
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Old 12-20-2011, 02:57 PM
 
Location: southern california
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the government is nothing but an entity (often seen as a beast) shaped and formed by a series of ACLU law suits.
that is why it is so complex to operate and its workers must be exceptional.
constant change and revision in behavior and procedure is daily demanded.
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Old 12-20-2011, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Go do a google. Minority owned and women owned businesses get special treatment from states/fed regarding bonds and in many times the bond is "waived" so they can get a foot in the door.

No, it's not a level playing field by any means.
Very true. They now have special programs that help them transition from 8A to Non-disadvantaged business.

There are downsides. My banker once told me there were restrictions on 8A businesses. Many don't transition from 8A very well and lose money or contracts. This puts the bank at risk.

We acted as a mentor for a small 8A about five years ago. It was rewarding in some respects. I liked helping the lady out. She was technically quite brilliant, but didn't have an ounce of practical business experience. To me the most interesting aspect was to watch her attitude toward government change. She was quite liberal when I first met her. She still is on many social issues. On the business side she's all republican.

Overall I think the 8A program is worthwhile, but I'm against the gay, lesbian, gender set-asides.
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Old 12-20-2011, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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This is just too damn much. How do you certify a firm is transgendered? Show up in a dress? Do I wear high heels to the pre-bid?
No, a push-up bra is sufficient.

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This will get abused. Just say you're gay or show up in a dress like you said.
Did I ever tell you I'm really a big gay transgender transvestite black woman?

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THESE are the "special rights" that gays are after.

Do a good job, make a good product and people will buy your product or service. Regardless of your sexual tendencies, race or gender.

This is exactly why people get agitated.
Who says there's no "Slippery Slope."

We all knew this was coming.
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