"A New Civil Rights Movement"?!? WTF? Comparison between Civil Rights Movement and illegal alien rights (suspected, racist)

[SoEdible]

Originally Posted by ovcatto

King didn't care about citizenship based upon borders but rather citizenship within humanity itself.

And just what injustices against illegal immigrants would Dr. King have fought against?

Do people really believe that Dr. King would have been dumb enough to fight for illegal immigration and have no knowledge of what it was doing to the Black Americans that he wanted to have more opportunities? More opportunity for Black Americans and allowing illegal immigration can't work at the same time.

[ovcatto]

Originally Posted by SoEdible

And just what injustices against illegal immigrants would Dr. King have fought against?

Google, the creation of the United Farm Workers.

Do people really believe that Dr. King would have been dumb enough to fight for illegal immigration and have no knowledge of what it was doing to the Black Americans that he wanted to have more opportunities?

Are you dumb enough to believe that King would have viewed economic justice as a competition between two groups of exploited people's? That he was dumb enough not to see the larger picture. And while we talking about being dumb the issue regarding the laws in Arizona, Georgia, and Alabama is that they not only target the illegal, the target the legal as well by institutionalizing racial profiling at its worse.

[Eleanora1]

Originally Posted by ovcatto

King didn't care about citizenship based upon borders but rather citizenship within humanity itself.

That an adorable sentiment. Now explain to me why Mexican citizens should be able to skip our immigration lines and make demands on Americans in the middle of a fierce recession.

If illegals want to be seen as human beings let them act like mature adult human beings. Mature adults do not drive without licenses or insurance, forge documents and ask another nation's poorest citizens to hand them their jobs.

Originally Posted by ovcatto

Google, the creation of the United Farm Workers.



Are you dumb enough to believe that King would have viewed economic justice as a competition between two groups of exploited people's? That he was dumb enough not to see the larger picture. And while we talking about being dumb the issue regarding the laws in Arizona, Georgia, and Alabama is that they not only target the illegal, the target the legal as well by institutionalizing racial profiling at its worse.

Illegals are not open to exploitation merely because of their skin color. They are open to exploitation because they are criminals who do not speak English and have violated our immigration laws. The only racism here is the support they find in the latino community, support that is based on racial identity rather than what is truly good for most Americans.

FYI Chavez himself saw illegals as largely lazy scabs and strikebreakers:

Cesar Chavez: Longtime foe of illegal immigration

Why would someone avocating for our poorest people argue in favor of importing people to compete with them?

[JanND]

Originally Posted by ovcatto

But you aren't.



I prefer to think that the Civil Rights Movement was to achieve the rights of African Americans as human beings.

I would also prefer that folks stop running about telling me and other African Americans what we should or shouldn't be upset about.

I don't think the poster meant that as trying to tell you to be upset. Althought you have the right to feel whatever you feel. I think they meant it like I mean it. I grew up in the 60's, we had sit ins, marches and it's during that time that I first became aware of even the need for terminology such as "Civil rights" Civil rights applied to inequality among people, all races, it applied to women in general also, there were lots of issues that needed to be addressed, truthfully there still are. I do not equate being in the U.S. illegally as a "civil rights" issue. There is no comparison in my opinion. To do so lends credibility to something that is illegal. If the folks wanted to protest the issues in their country of origin, then that would perhaps be a "civil rights issue" or whatever terminology applied. Being an illegal citizen is a legal issue.

[afoigrokerkok]

Originally Posted by JanND

I don't think the poster meant that as trying to tell you to be upset. Althought you have the right to feel whatever you feel. I think they meant it like I mean it. I grew up in the 60's, we had sit ins, marches and it's during that time that I first became aware of even the need for terminology such as "Civil rights" Civil rights applied to inequality among people, all races, it applied to women in general also, there were lots of issues that needed to be addressed, truthfully there still are. I do not equate being in the U.S. illegally as a "civil rights" issue. There is no comparison in my opinion. To do so lends credibility to something that is illegal. If the folks wanted to protest the issues in their country of origin, then that would perhaps be a "civil rights issue" or whatever terminology applied. Being an illegal citizen is a legal issue.

What a wonderful post. I agree 100%. And, no, I wasn't telling him or any other African American to be upset.

[ovcatto]

Originally Posted by Eleanora1

What a sickening article! Illegals are not people standing up for inherent human rights. They're not Martin Luther King rightfully asking that American citizens of all colors be equal before the law.

You are a prime example of everything I oppose because the issue isn't about legal vs illegal but the indiscriminate targeting of hispanics citizens and legal immigrants who you and others lump into the category of "lazy trespassers" a concept that underlies the recently enacted state enacted immigration laws.

[SourD]

Originally Posted by ovcatto

You are a prime example of everything I oppose because the issue isn't about legal vs illegal but the indiscriminate targeting of hispanics citizens and legal immigrants who you and others lump into the category of "lazy trespassers" a concept that underlies the recently enacted state enacted immigration laws.

[SoEdible]

Originally Posted by ovcatto

Google, the creation of the United Farm Workers.



Are you dumb enough to believe that King would have viewed economic justice as a competition between two groups of exploited people's? That he was dumb enough not to see the larger picture. And while we talking about being dumb the issue regarding the laws in Arizona, Georgia, and Alabama is that they not only target the illegal, the target the legal as well by institutionalizing racial profiling at its worse.

I don't need to "Google" the creation of the United Farm Workers. I am already familiar with the history of migrant workers in the United States. You should answer people's questions with answers instead of telling them to Google something. Did Dr. King support illegal immigrant farm workers specifically? Was Dr. King not a compassionate man all around? It is obvious that he was, but there is no way that anyone today can make the claim that Dr. King would have rallied for illegal immigrants. Dr. King is not your Al Sharpton, nor a Jesse Jackson.

Once you can start answering people's questions with facts and not riddles then that would make things a lot more productive.

Also, can you not admit that the law in Alabama says that law enforcement can ask for documentation ONLY after someone has been stopped for something else?

[jerseygal4u]

The main point os that Illegals aren't being discriminated against because of skin color but because of illegal actvity.
How someone cannot see that is beyond me.

[afoigrokerkok]

Originally Posted by jerseygal4u

How someone cannot see that is beyond me.

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