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Old 12-21-2011, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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It's 2 months..average is $13 per week.
$13 * 8 is $104.
How many Dems like old bob understand this? None sounds about right to me.
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Old 12-21-2011, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Typical liberal math.
I think that bob has a Dem calculator that figures in numbers they can use to snow the people.
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Old 12-21-2011, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Anybody, Republican or Democrat, with a brain sees that it is purely an attempt to make it appear that the Republicans are against letting us get that tiny bit of money two months and then argue and argue about doing it again. The Republicans aren't about to back down off the 12 months and the Dems,in order to make it appear that the Reps don't want us to get that tiny bit of money are to blame. It is purely political and both parties are guilty of trying to use it to fool the sheep.
The House Republicans never thought it would pass the Senate, so House Republicans voted for it.

To their surprise, it overwhelmingly passed the Senate, by 89-10. Lots of Republicans in the Senate voted for it. Now, the only way the Republican House can kill it, without their fingerprints on the murder weapon, is to send it to some roach motel committee where it goes in but never comes out. That's what their doing.

The reason it appears that the Republicans are against letting us get an extension of the payroll tax reduction is because the Republicans are against letting us get an extension of the payroll tax reduction.
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Old 12-21-2011, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Ask Boner, he was for it before the teabaggers told him he was against it.
Who is this Boner, you refer to? Is he a user of Viagra or some of the other enhancers?
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Old 12-21-2011, 12:42 PM
 
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Yes , that whopping $120.48 is going to turn things around. Another $80 , one could even buy a bag of weed. American grown please.
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Old 12-21-2011, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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The House Republicans never thought it would pass the Senate, so House Republicans voted for it.

To their surprise, it overwhelmingly passed the Senate, by 89-10. Lots of Republicans in the Senate voted for it. Now, the only way the Republican House can kill it, without their fingerprints on the murder weapon, is to send it to some roach motel committee where it goes in but never comes out. That's what their doing.

The reason it appears that the Republicans are against letting us get an extension of the payroll tax reduction is because the Republicans are against letting us get an extension of the payroll tax reduction.
I see that you don't really know how bills become laws in the Congress. You should have watched that TV show for little kids a bit closer.
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Old 12-21-2011, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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I see that you don't really know how bills become laws in the Congress. You should have watched that TV show for little kids a bit closer.
I do quite well and your smug tone is no substitute for meritorious arguments -- but that's all you got.
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:01 PM
 
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People who earn $50,000 per year don't need an extra $13 a week.

And Democrats are idiots by trying to exclaim that the extra $5 per week that someone earning $20,000 a year -- is really helping anyone.

Steal from Social Security to give the "Real Average American" the opportunity to buy an extra gallon of milk every week is the Democrat's idea of helping the middle class.

This is what American's should be pleased about?


Tax cuts on businesses and deregulation would give people jobs.

Remember 9% unemployment?


It's all falling on deaf ears.
If I understand this bill correctly this is not a tax cut for business but for the employees themselves. It will do nothing to stimulate businesses or job creation. It failed the first time the Obama administration and it is insane to think it would do any differently this time.

People are apathetic and tired of the infighting incited by the Obama administration. The MSM is playing along since they also don't talk about the cost to the already financially struggling Social Security.

The plan it to crash the economy and make all American's dependent. This legislation takes us further down that road. Obama/Reid/Boehner are on the same team.
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:41 PM
 
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Im actualy shocked at how much the media is lieing about it.
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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If I understand this bill correctly this is not a tax cut for business but for the employees themselves. It will do nothing to stimulate businesses or job creation. It failed the first time the Obama administration and it is insane to think it would do any differently this time.
You make assertions as if they were facts.

The payroll tax reduction was estimated by smart economists to add 1% to GDP because it stimulates demand. Giving more money to businesses, who are already sitting on two-trillion dollars in savings, would do nothing for job creation. But demand will.

You also asserted that "It [stimulus] failed the first time..." Economists disagree with you:

Mark Zandi, chief economist for Moody’s Analytics, projected that without the stimulus bill, the country would have had 1.75 million fewer jobs as of the third quarter of 2011.

Daniel Wilson, a senior economist at the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco, has estimated that stimulus spending created or saved 3.4 million jobs by March 2011.

Ohio State University economics professor Bill Dupor offered another projection.

Due to the stimulus bill, there were 870,000 private-sector jobs and 510,000 government jobs in place in December 2010, said Dupor, who made the analysis with University of Western Ontario economics professor Tim Conley.

Business don't hire more workers because they have more money in the bank. They hire more workers when they have something that can't be done with existing workers.
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