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Old 12-25-2011, 05:03 PM
 
Location: SC
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Yes, by all means let us listen to the Olbermann's, Matthews', Schultzes, and so on instead. Is that what you're saying?
I'm saying do your own research. The ideal sources will tell the truth about both sides. Except for someone like Ron Paul, you may need to listen to both sides to hear the negatives of each side. That is what Griffin says. Generally what you hear may be true, but it just isn't balanced because the truth about the other side isn't being admitted. It is all attacks and demonization of the OTHER SIDE designed to get you to HATE the other side.

This is also interesting to keep in mind. I think this had to have been done several years ago as our present form of government is nowhere in the middle of the graphic but far to the left.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45apy...eature=related

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Old 12-25-2011, 05:29 PM
 
Location: SC
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Some of the in our faces policies by the collectivists going back to the Clinton era is shown here as well as how the media has been in their back pockets for 40 years. At the 4 minute mark it really gets going.


Ron Paul vs the Central Banks - YouTube
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Old 12-25-2011, 06:21 PM
 
Location: SC
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We also can't forget that the banksters and the collectivists are one and the same and they've been the real enemy of FREEDOM since the founding of our country. President Andrew Jackson was the only one to finally bring them down and pay off the country's national debt in 1835 after which we enjoyed decades of prosperity the country had never seen before. Then in 1913 President Wilson gave control back to the banksters through the Federal Reserve Act and it has been downhill ever since then. G. Edward Griffin's book The Creature from Jekyll Island was all about how the Federal Reserve was formed.
Ron Paul could take back the Federal Reserve for 144 million dollar - YouTube
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Old 12-25-2011, 06:25 PM
 
Location: southern california
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judging from the mideast totalitarian governments, many are very afraid of the internet. people use it to organize. the government desire here to clamp down is not coming from a kind and generous heart.
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Old 12-25-2011, 07:22 PM
 
Location: SC
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judging from the mideast totalitarian governments, many are very afraid of the internet. people use it to organize. the government desire here to clamp down is not coming from a kind and generous heart.
You can say THAT again. Kindness and generosity have been lacking since 2001 if not way before then and the parsimoniousness was ramped up even more then. Or you could say the greed and lust for control has been exponentially increasing amongst the government and the collectivists. Look at the Obama's Christmas vacations to Hawaii as an example of the GREED. Why isn't Michelle in a food bank volunteering? Talk about being WAY OUT OF TOUCH and not caring.

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Old 12-25-2011, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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You can say THAT again. Kindness and generosity have been lacking since 2001 if not way before then and the parsimoniousness was ramped up even more then. Or you could say the greed and lust for control has been exponentially increasing amongst the government and the collectivists. Look at the Obama's Christmas vacations to Hawaii as an example of the GREED. Why isn't Michelle in a food bank volunteering? Talk about being WAY OUT OF TOUCH and not caring.
Are YOU in a food bank volunteering? If you ain't you'r just spewing HOT AIR.
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Old 12-25-2011, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Florida
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This system of things will eventually come to destruction. God was kicked out and that says a lot about America. Good is bad today and bad is good. Many stand up for the bad and knock the good .

Taking prayer out of school, Christ out of Christmas and Easter and then making it a commerical holiday instead.

Do children sing the Christmas Carols such as Silent Night anymore?

Kids grow up and if they have no moral fiber taught , than greed and hate and self indulgence take the place of honesty , love and thankfulness then self respect will follow. We would be in better shape if our leaders and followers had more moral fiber.

it is no wonder why our country is in trouble.. It is people running the country and with lies, deceit and love of power being in the mist of all of it, it is headed for failure.
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Old 12-25-2011, 09:05 PM
 
Location: SC
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This system of things will eventually come to destruction. God was kicked out and that says a lot about America. Good is bad today and bad is good. Many stand up for the bad and knock the good .

Taking prayer out of school, Christ out of Christmas and Easter and then making it a commerical holiday instead.

Do children sing the Christmas Carols such as Silent Night anymore?

Kids grow up and if they have no moral fiber taught , than greed and hate and self indulgence take the place of honesty , love and thankfulness then self respect will follow. We would be in better shape if our leaders and followers had more moral fiber.

it is no wonder why our country is in trouble.. It is people running the country and with lies, deceit and love of power being in the mist of all of it, it is headed for failure.
Yep.... and as Griffin says it has been headed in that direction since WW l, we just haven't realized it. The Collectivists have done such a good job distracting us until now that we are in a second depression and things are so bad people are finally waking up and starting to demand answers.

Dumbing down the kids and indoctrinating them is part of the plan too. The kids are easier to control if they can't think for themselves.
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Old 12-25-2011, 09:13 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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I do not think we need any source to tell us the truth about the two party's. Most of us already know, don't need help from anyone or any source. We see thru our eyes, and hear with our ears.

We notice that both party's lie thru their teeth, and tell us what they think we need to hear to get elected. I think the two major party's are one in the same, but a different ending to the story. But their ending is not all about helping us little guys. It is about them and their own agenda.
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Old 12-25-2011, 09:29 PM
 
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Sorry, but conservatives do the same. just look at Bush jr and the current clowns that are running.
Exactly, and NAFTA was in the works before Clinton was in office.
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