Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
View Poll Results: The middle class is suffering and Republicans want to cut taxes for the wealthy. Do you agree with t
Yes, the wealthy need more money and power. This will help America. 38 20.54%
No, the Republicans are dead wrong.This hasn't ever helped anyone but the wealthy and will continue to hurt the middle class. 147 79.46%
Voters: 185. You may not vote on this poll

Closed Thread Start New Thread
 
Old 12-29-2011, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Y-Town Area
4,009 posts, read 5,733,294 times
Reputation: 3499

Advertisements

America needs to stop the Voodoo Economics/Trickle Down Economics that was really created to make the rich even wealthier and it has worked. It has not worked to help the economy or the middle class.
The rich keep getting wealthier and still want more, while the rest continue to decline. The wealthy do not need tax breaks.

 
Old 12-29-2011, 11:28 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
89,013 posts, read 44,824,472 times
Reputation: 13710
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cletus Awreetus-Awrightus View Post
If he paid it voluntarily, then it would only apply to him, and that would defeat the purpose.
Not at all. The Forbes article explains EXACTLY how many others do it. And it applies to all of them:
Quote:
"By contrast, some of the highest income taxpayers operate their businesses as privately held S corporations, which means that the businesses themselves pay no taxes, but pass through all their profits to their owners’ 1040s, where it is taxed at the ordinary top rate of 35%."
 
Old 12-29-2011, 11:29 AM
 
3,498 posts, read 2,218,190 times
Reputation: 646
Quote:
Originally Posted by NJBest View Post
In that case, capital gains is triple-taxed if you want to consider tax when spending.
Eventually when you spend it ,yes, However, when it's taxed as Capital gains, it's only double taxed. If you spent it you wouldn't have it to invest.
 
Old 12-29-2011, 11:31 AM
 
69,368 posts, read 64,108,083 times
Reputation: 9383
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cletus Awreetus-Awrightus View Post
If he paid it voluntarily, then it would only apply to him, and that would defeat the purpose.
I thought the purpose was to reduce the deficit? If Buffet paid what he claims he would willingly pay, would it not reduce the deficit?
 
Old 12-29-2011, 11:35 AM
 
24,488 posts, read 41,141,698 times
Reputation: 12920
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skinny Puppy View Post
Eventually when you spend it ,yes, However, when it's taxed as Capital gains, it's only double taxed. If you spent it you wouldn't have it to invest.
There's no guarantee you're going to reinvest capital gains just like there's no guarantee that you're going to invest your wages. Capital gains has one more level of taxation over wages.
 
Old 12-29-2011, 11:36 AM
 
3,498 posts, read 2,218,190 times
Reputation: 646
Quote:
Originally Posted by NJBest View Post
There's no guarantee you're going to reinvest capital gains just like there's no guarantee that you're going to invest your wages. Capital gains has one more level of taxation over wages.
Not necessarily. Capital gains is taxation on income.
 
Old 12-29-2011, 11:39 AM
 
24,488 posts, read 41,141,698 times
Reputation: 12920
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skinny Puppy View Post
Not necessarily. Capital gains is taxation on income.
I meant capital gains on corporate investments.... which is what kind of capital gains we're talking about when it comes to Buffet. I left that out in my previous post (although, I did clarify it on an earlier post).
 
Old 12-29-2011, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
86,052 posts, read 84,481,831 times
Reputation: 27720
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skinny Puppy View Post
Not necessarily. Capital gains is taxation on income.
No, it's taxation on profit, not income.

My interest and dividends are not capital gains.
Rent from investment RE is not capital gains.
The profit/loss I get when I sell an asset (stocks, RE, etc) is capital gains.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_gain
A capital gain is a profit that results from investments into a capital asset, such as stocks, bonds or real estate, which exceeds the purchase price. It is the difference between a higher selling price and a lower purchase price, resulting in a financial gain for the investor.
 
Old 12-29-2011, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
86,052 posts, read 84,481,831 times
Reputation: 27720
I'll wager from the types of comments here that many have no clue what capital gains are.
Does that mean you have never bought/sold stocks or real estate ?
Because if you had you'd see that you need a completely different form regarding capital gains/losses and even then, your losses are limited each year.

Dividends and bank interest received go right into the 1040..Schedule B to list them all but capital gains/losses is Schedule D
 
Old 12-29-2011, 11:45 AM
 
69,368 posts, read 64,108,083 times
Reputation: 9383
Quote:
Originally Posted by HappyTexan View Post
No, it's taxation on profit, not income. lower purchase price, resulting in a financial gain for the investor.
Correct, which is why so many dont get it.

Income from a business is taxed as income, and then when you sell the business, you are ALSO taxed on the profit
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Closed Thread


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:24 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top