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Well, you are entitled to believe what you want, even if that belief is false. The fact is that the government programs conservative deride are successful.
But getting back to the thread topic, "The middle class is suffering and the Republicans want to cut taxes for the wealthy," this fact is self-evident from this chart:
Apologists for rising inequality often argue that since most Americans’ income has risen despite rising inequality, there’s no reason to complain about inequality other than envy. But here we clearly see that GDP per capital (average) is rising but median family income is not rising, which indicates that high gains are concentrated in the top brackets. Thus, the middle class is suffering and the Republicans want to cut taxes for the wealthy.
Yeah right.
Take away all of the government cheese and see how many people fall into poverty. See, these programs are not a hand up.......but..........a permanent hand out that we cannot afford.
For example.....Baby Momma Bennies encourage women with no means to support a baby.....to get pregger.......so they can get on the Baby Momma Bennie gravy-train.
Take away all of the government cheese and see how many people fall into poverty. See, these programs are not a hand up.......but..........a permanent hand out that we cannot afford.
For example.....Baby Momma Bennies encourage women with no means to support a baby.....to get pregger.......so they can get on the Baby Momma Bennie gravy-train.
Shhhh... You might tick off the wingnuts that take much of that aid. Are you aware that red states take while blue states pay.
Class warfare thread doesn't really address the problem
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent
More accurately, conservatives reject the notion that liberals always try to put forth - that the rich don't pay their "fair share" and/or that the rich pay less tax than everyone else. Both are patently false. The rich pay a SIGNIFICANTLY larger percentage than anyone else.
Additionally, they reject the notion that our economic problems would all be solved if the government simply had more taxes to spend. The real problem people have with raising taxes on the wealthy ... or anyone else -- is that our government has shown absolutely no ability or penchant towards reducing spending or spending more wisely! --
Funneling more taxes into a government that 'wastes money like a drunken sailor' is what people are upset about. (Apologies to any 'drunken sailors' out there --- At least you will only spend the money you have ... and will 'wake up' in the morning).
Take away all of the government cheese and see how many people fall into poverty. See, these programs are not a hand up.......but..........a permanent hand out that we cannot afford.
For example.....Baby Momma Bennies encourage women with no means to support a baby.....to get pregger.......so they can get on the Baby Momma Bennie gravy-train.
Ad you know this because there were fewer poor people before the government, right?
What conservatives choose to believe is that government intervention caused problems, while in fact, government intervention was a reaction to problems and market failures. Nobody woke up on day and said, "I feel like regulating something." Regulation was a reaction.
On poverty, poverty was far higher before programs existed to relieve poverty.
I assume you discovered the error in your ways. It is easy to claim the uber wealthy pay a greater share of the federal income taxes when they are taking a much larger share of the income pie.
Overall federal income tax revenue has been flat, adjusted for inflation and gdp growth revenue has shrunk.
I sure read that one wrong. I must be getting old.
Shhhh... You might tick off the wingnuts that take much of that aid. Are you aware that red states take while blue states pay.
I'm from a blue state and here is a fact for you. Out of almost 40 million people, 400,000 tax returns fund half of California. How do you like them red apples?
No, but in the past when upper-income taxes were higher, the federal government cut checks to the states (e.g. revenue sharing.) This benefited citizens of the states -- especially poor states, like Mississippi, that now had money for its underfunded education system.
With more money to the states, the states were able to generously subsidize higher education. In NY, the state used to absorb 75% of higher ed costs. Now, it's 25%. That means that many can't afford college and hurts our society.
The federal government also was more able to invest in America's infrastructure that increased productivity for everyone. That's just not happening now due to concern over spending.
Well that won't happen because right now the Treasury is borrowing from Federal pensions to pay bills. Even if you increased taxes the Fed still spends too much.
Well that won't happen because right now the Treasury is borrowing from Federal pensions to pay bills. Even if you increased taxes the Fed still spends too much.
That's precisely the symptom of too low taxes and why they should be raised at least back to the rates during the Clinton glory days.
That's precisely the symptom of too low taxes and why they should be raised at least back to the rates during the Clinton glory days.
Then why is the USG and local government CUTTING taxes ?
Why did the Bush cuts not expire and turn into the Obama cuts ?
Why did they allow the payroll tax cut and then EXTEND it ?
Why did Obama just offer tax incentives (cuts) to corporations for workers when those corporations were coming back to the US anyway ?
The USG is not for raising taxes nor are they for cutting spending.
They are doing just the opposite..cutting taxes and raising spending.
I got it! The feds spend too much on helping to the less fortunate, which has seem to grow because there are limited amount of jobs. The wealthy are paying less taxes on their capital gains than people who actually work. Republicans can't see this and the democrats can't explain it
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Class warfare thread doesn't really address the problem
