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Old 08-16-2013, 06:57 PM
 
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The answer is simple----Mexican men can't keep their nuts in their pants and Mexican women are lazy. Mexican men have juvenile egos and no sense of accountability and Mexican women raise their men to be so and hope their bed buddies will stick around after a pregnancy. Hence, too many babies and too many stupid women having them.
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Old 08-16-2013, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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There's nothing 'robust' about California's economy, and the state is still broke, and still run by civil service unions and the environmental lobby, which explains our sky high real estate prices and equally high gas prices compared to other states, in the vicinity of $.60-$.75 per gallon.

3,500,000+ million people have left the state in the past 20 years according to Joel Kotkin, and have been replaced by folks with much lower levels of education.

The Democrats have also destroyed the public schools out here, which used to be the best in the nation forty-plus years ago.

The expected $6,000,000,000 in new revenue from last fall's passage of Prop. 30 will turn out to be off by over 80% as the history books have shown for decades, and the gusher of revenue which Sacramento and Obama & Co. in DC received from the wealthy and multinationals who cashed out their investments at the end of 2012 to avoid getting socked with the higher capital gains tax rates which took effect on January 1st will drop substantially come tax-filing season.

Obama & Governor Moonbeam are in for a very rude awakening, and the fact that the California economy has plummeted from #6 to #10 in the world over the past 20 years isn't exactly a secret, or a surprise to those of us who saw it coming over 20 years ago.
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Old 08-16-2013, 09:27 PM
 
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It should be interesting with Medicaid expanison and decrease Federal subsidy... Along with the rampant tax evasion...
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Old 08-25-2013, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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Poor people are moving into California.
Once again your talking point is completely divorced from reality. The census shows that poor people are the ones moving out of California mostly because they can't afford the high cost of housing. It's a supply and demand issue and the well to do out bid the poor and it is the poor who end up moving to BFE states simply because it is cheap and the best they can afford.
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Old 08-25-2013, 06:30 PM
 
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Once again your talking point is completely divorced from reality. The census shows that poor people are the ones moving out of California mostly because they can't afford the high cost of housing. It's a supply and demand issue and the well to do out bid the poor and it is the poor who end up moving to BFE states simply because it is cheap and the best they can afford.
Without Mexican migration California would be losing population. If you only look at domestic migration CA is losing people. It's always possible that the Mexicans moving into CA are wealthy, but I haven't seen anything to support that view. At least some of the Asians are wealthy, but not all of the Asian immigrants are wealthy either.
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Old 08-25-2013, 07:28 PM
 
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Without Mexican migration California would be losing population. If you only look at domestic migration CA is losing people. It's always possible that the Mexicans moving into CA are wealthy, but I haven't seen anything to support that view. At least some of the Asians are wealthy, but not all of the Asian immigrants are wealthy either.
Has it ever occurred to you that Californians are leaving due to mass illegal immigration into our state from Mexico? We could stand to lose some of the dead weight and welfare users in our state. Unfortunately, it is the contributors that are leaving.
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Old 08-25-2013, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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Which states are the failures with the most people on welfare again? It sure as hell isn't California.

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Republicans once again prove they're bad at math. California is NOT the top welfare state, not by a long shot, just look at this map of welfare recipients as a percentage of the total population:



You'll notice that generally the more red the state is the higher its welfare rate while the south in general is pretty much the worst of the worst when it comes to welfare rates.
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Old 08-25-2013, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Once again your talking point is completely divorced from reality. The census shows that poor people are the ones moving out of California mostly because they can't afford the high cost of housing. It's a supply and demand issue and the well to do out bid the poor and it is the poor who end up moving to BFE states simply because it is cheap and the best they can afford.
The census shows that for 20 years now California has net negative domestic migration. That means the population is growing only via births and immigration. "Domestic" essentially means citizens. They have been leaving CA for 20+ years now. Yes there are domestic births, but we also know certain demographic groups have higher birth rates.

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Old 08-25-2013, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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So what? What matters is total population and domestic migration is mostly in two catagories; poor people leaving because they can't afford the price of a house and elderly people selling their much appriciated homes so they can move some where dirt cheap to spend their golden years. Neither poor people nor retirees are all that economically dynamic so I'll happily accept young immigrants who are more likely to contribute more to the economy in future years.

You're delusional if you think it is the wealthy giving up their Malibu beach houses and winery estates in Napa. Hell, even Mitt Romney, after bashing the state to appease right wing dullards in the primaries, packed his bags and moved here after he lost because the state has the best quality of life in the country for those who can afford it. That's why he bought a brand new $40 million beach house in La Jolla. This state is a magnet for the wealthy because it offers amenities you just can't get dog crap flats, OK no matter how low the taxes there are.
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Old 08-25-2013, 08:15 PM
 
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Which states are the failures with the most people on welfare again? It sure as hell isn't California.
That would indeed be California. CA is the most populous state though.

Welfare: How California stacks up | UTSanDiego.com



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