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Old 12-29-2011, 09:47 PM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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If you want to reduce the number of people taking advantage of government services, start lobbying your legislators to raise the minimum wage by at least $3/hour. Even that will only just barely elevate the working poor above the poverty line. It's unconscionable that CEOs and business owners personally reap millions or billions while refusing to pay the people who actually do the work that generates those profits a living wage.

Column: Taxpayers Should Stop Subsidizing Walmart

Then, while you're at it, lobby your representatives to stop giving welfare to the wealthy.
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Originally Posted by Tom A. Coburn, M.D., U.S. Senator, Oklahoma

http://www.coburn.senate.gov/public/...6-91c970fbee1f

The government safety net has been cast far and wide, with almost half of all American households now receiving some form of government assistance. But most taxpayers will be asking why when they learn who is receiving what.

From tax write-offs for gambling losses, vacation homes, and luxury yachts to subsidies for their ranches and estates, the government is subsidizing the lifestyles of the rich and famous. Multimillionaires are even receiving government checks for not working. This welfare for the well-off – costing billions of dollars a year – is being paid for with the taxes of the less fortunate, many who are working two jobs just to make ends meet, and IOUs to be paid off by future

generations.

This is not an accidental loophole in the law. To the contrary, this reverse Robin Hood style of wealth redistribution is an intentional effort to get all Americans bought into a system where everyone appears to benefit. ...

We should never demonize those who are successful. Nor should we pamper them with unnecessary welfare to create an appearance everyone is benefiting from federal programs. ...

The government’s social safety net, which has long existed to catch those who are down and help them get back up, is now being used as a hammock by some millionaires, some who are paying less taxes than average middle class families. Comprehensive information on the full range of government benefits enjoyed by millionaires has never been collected previously. This report provides the first such compilation. What it reveals is sheer Washington stupidity with government policies pampering the wealthy costing taxpayers billions of dollars every year.
What are we subsidizing exactly, and at what cost?$74 million in unemployment checks.
  • $21 billion in gambling losses.
  • $9 billion in Social Security Retirement Benefits.
  • $316 million in farm subsidies.
  • $89 million for preservation of ranches and estates.
  • $75.6 million in residential energy tax credits.
  • $18.15 million in child care tax credits.
  • $16 million in government backed education loans to attend college.
  • $7.5 million to compensate for damages caused by emergencies to property that should have been insured.
"On average, each year, this report found that millionaires enjoy benefits from tax giveaways and federal grant programs totaling $30 billion."
They above all should be cut off, given that they have absolutely no need of government largesse to survive.
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Old 12-29-2011, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Texas
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If you want to reduce the number of people taking advantage of government services, start lobbying your legislators to raise the minimum wage by at least $3/hour.
Inflation and increased unemployment are always wonderful.

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Then, while you're at it, lobby your representatives to stop giving welfare to the wealthy.
I actually agree with you on that.
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Old 12-29-2011, 09:49 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Fail.... old Time article and Rand What if not gonna get it. Show me where California is a net drain on the Federal Government.
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Old 12-29-2011, 09:50 PM
 
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California is just going through a rough spell. It's still going to have the beaches, the weather, the scenery, the vibe, etc.

The US can't bail them out. America will bust if that happens.

California and Bust | Business | Vanity Fair
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Old 12-29-2011, 09:50 PM
 
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If you want to reduce the number of people taking advantage of government services, start lobbying your legislators to raise the minimum wage by at least $3/hour. Even that will only just barely elevate the working poor above the poverty line. It's unconscionable that CEOs and business owners personally reap millions or billions while refusing to pay the people who actually do the work that generates those profits a living wage.

Column: Taxpayers Should Stop Subsidizing Walmart

Then, while you're at it, lobby your representatives to stop giving welfare to the wealthy. They above all should be cut off, given that they have absolutely no need of government largesse to survive.
And what does this have to do with the OP concerning California being the welfare capital of America?
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Old 12-29-2011, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Fail.... old Time article and Rand What if not gonna get it. Show me where California is a net drain on the Federal Government.
I don't think it is actually but you suggested that CA is supporting where plwhit lives which is TX if I remember correctly. We also have a net outgo and we don't have as big of a problem with handouts as you do.
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Old 12-29-2011, 09:52 PM
 
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Fail.... old Time article and Rand What if not gonna get it. Show me where California is a net drain on the Federal Government.
Here ya go:

California Budget Frequently Asked Questions - California Department of Finance
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Old 12-29-2011, 09:54 PM
 
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There are many, many illegal immigrants who land in Texas expecting the state to pay for their dialysis. The social workers point them back to their homelands or to California where the state still pays for the cost of maintenance dialysis for illegal immigrants.
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Old 12-29-2011, 09:55 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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I don't think it is actually but you suggested that CA is supporting where plwhit lives which is TX if I remember correctly. We also have a net outgo and we don't have as big of a problem with handouts as you do.
Ok, my bad. I'm losing track of where everyone is from. Truthfully I'm really not keeping score though. Life is good here, as I'm sure it is where most people live right now. I'm hoping we are over the hump now and 2012 is rocking.
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Old 12-29-2011, 09:56 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Yawn.... seriously dude give it a rest. You are starting to look a bit desperate.
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