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View Poll Results: Liberals - Would you ban Christianity in America if you had the means to do it?
Yes 16 14.81%
No 92 85.19%
Voters: 108. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-30-2011, 08:44 AM
 
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There are a lot of people, of different political stripes, beating drums to toss Christianity on the fire. Terms such as "Christian Taliban" et al get used with more frequency and the idea that Christians desire to force people to Faith via the government becomes a talking point with the anti Christian section. Its not really a liberal/ conservative thing ...more of a singular group of people...who are not really organized as a "movement" so much as making a little noise here and there. When we here about a display of the Commandments at a court house having to be moved or a Nativity scene at a mall etc that caused a stir ....it usually boils down to one or two people making a lot of noise. I don't really see that as a liberal plot.
It's a natural and expected reaction to proselytization. Society is "free" enough these days that people feel like they can speak their mind about religion without fear of a Salem with trial and subsequent hanging.

Pushy Christians get pushed back.

What is wrong with that?
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Old 12-30-2011, 08:44 AM
 
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Eh, most liberals wouldn't tell us they would ban it. They are concerned about how they are perceived, and saying you want to ban Christianity wouldn't be perceived well. However, if Christianity were actually banned, most liberals would be thrilled.
1) Actually not really because I have a lot of family that practices Christianity, and I would want them to be able to continue doing so.

2) I'm liberal and believe it or not, I go to church every now and then. So I would be banning my own self if I ever advocated for a Christianity ban.

3) The world is not as black-and-white as you seem to believe, based on your post. Some liberals are Christian/some Christians are liberal.
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Old 12-30-2011, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Helena, Montana
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Stryper!!! Great reference! Do you remember Petra?
Great, now I've got "To hell with the devil" stuck in my head.
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Old 12-30-2011, 08:50 AM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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This post is badly worded. You should have conducted a poll as to find out who actually wants to abolish Christianity and than find out what party afflilation that they belong with
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Old 12-30-2011, 08:54 AM
 
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I don't know why the OP thinks liberals aren't christian but...
I think many people equate separation of church and state with banning religion. For the OP

Liberal Christianity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 12-30-2011, 08:58 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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First of all I want to say every generation has had a different standard for what constitutes separation of church and state, a principle that has existed since the founding of this country and is necessary for a free society. However, I see liberals using the principle more and more to silence Christianity wherever it shows its head in the public square.

The far-left usually blames Christians for most of America's problems, be it gay rights, abortion, the environment, or scientific ignorance. They generally lump all Christians in with the likes of the Westboro Baptist Church and discredit anyone who believes as an ignorant, bronze age fool. There is a deep hatred for the Southern states and that hatred is rooted in despite for the large number of people in this South who still practice Christianity. The Republican and Democratic divide in this nation is LARGELY centered around Christianity and its place in politics with Republicans generally being for a greater role of faith and tradition and Democrats wanting to throw it out. 50 years ago, in the time of John F. Kennedy, this was not the case. I've heard numerous liberals on this board say this country would be so much better off if Christianity didn't exist, and they praise Europe which is now mostly post-Christian.
Christians are just so hypersensitive and defensive these days, and for no good reason. Isn't your god on your side? That all-knowing all-powerful being who has the entire future mapped out for every flea and algae until the end of time?

If Christianity is faltering, by your own reckoning it HAS to be god's will.

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So here is a hypothetical...if you had complete power and the ability to do so, would you ban Christianity in America? Nevermind the Constitution, would the banning of Christianity make America a better place and would you go as far as to amend the Constitution to do it?

If YES - What would the punishment be for practicing it?

If NO - How far should separation of church and state be enforced?

No - the 1st amendment covers this and is amplified by Jefferson's commentary and it's worked for over two centuries

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Old 12-30-2011, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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I don't know about that. If the heading includes the word "Liberals" in it, and is written by a Conservative, it's probably full of lies
Good point.
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Old 12-30-2011, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Wyoming
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Maybe I should have said atheists rather than liberals. I know there are liberal Christians. Many of the liberals on this board however happen to be atheist and heavily anti-Christian.
Maybe?

I'm politically conservative and am very disturbed that you would have raised such a question. Many liberals are Christians. Many conservatives are not Christians. Enough said.
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Old 12-30-2011, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Camberville
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No. - signed, a liberal agnostic Jew


On the other hand, how many conservative Christians would advocate banning Islam in America? I've seen that advocated many times on this forum and always from the same cohort of people who trash liberals for "persecuting" Christians.
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Old 12-30-2011, 09:12 AM
 
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This is silly. I know plenty of Liberal Christians. Why is it that Conservatives think that all Christians are Conservative? I doubt Jesus would ever vote Republican. I see that there are some extremists that voted yes, but I wonder how many Conservatives would vote to ban Islam. If you want to ban any religion, you cannot truly be a Liberal. Forcing your religious (or non-religious) views down peoples' throats is not tolerant or liberal.
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