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In a letter to South Carolina's government, Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights Thomas Perez called the state law—which would require voters to present one of five forms of photo ID at the polls—a violation of Section 5 of the 1965 Voting Rights Act. Overall, he noted, 8.4% of the state's registered white voters lack photo ID, compared to 10% of nonwhite voters.
Obviously, the racially motivated, worse AG EVER is playing politics and I hope he gets smacked down but good by the courts.
Here is a rundown of how ridiculous his claim is, considering the states that have already won in the courts on the issue.
Why is Indiana important? Because the Supreme Court approved an identical photo-ID voting requirement in Indiana in 2008, not to mention one in Georgia, also covered by Section 5, in 2005:
Well, if you're going to legislate to stop a problem, I'd say it makes sense to make sure there is a problem in the first place. And here I thought avoiding unnecessary legislation was a conservative principle.
I see you have NO problem with allowing even ONE illegal vote to cancel out a legal one. As if there is no voter fraud, as if 99% of voter fraud occurs on the democrat side of the aisle.
Nothing controversial in the principle, it's the way it should be. But instituting a rule that requires paperwork that a sizable percentage of citizens just don't have - that smacks of intent.
Huh?
What? They don't have a license or ID to cash a check, go to the back, go to the DMV, pick up a welfare check or foodstamps, buy a house or fly on a plane?
According to the DOJ figures, the law would create a disproportionate impact on minorities. Want to know that figure? 1.6% difference.
8.6% vs. 10.0% is actually closer to a 16% difference. You're mistaking percentage points for actual percentages. Common mistake, btw., so I won't assume there's intent to deceive.
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Obviously, the racially motivated
Wait a sec - didn't you just argue that there was no racial differences? Now it's racially motivated? Does not compute.
It does seem kind of weird, doesn't it? But we all know who those college kids are goign to vote for, don't we?
If you're middle-class and established. The bottom 5-10 percent tend not to even have bank accounts (hence the check cashing places in bad neighborhoods), and if they don't drive, what do they need it for?
How do they cash their welfare checks, pick up their food stamps?
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Originally Posted by SHABAZZ310
The Obama administration isn’t on the opposite site of the American people. And please site your sources proving overwhelming approvals. In reality about half of the people are for it and the other half against. It’s a polarizing issue. This issue isn’t “all politics” as you suggest. There are real concerns about voter suppression.
Sorry, yes they are. These are COMMON SENSE laws. Who in this day and age doesn't have a photo ID? And if by chance they don't and they qualify, they can get a free one.
The ONLY reason the dems/Left hate these laws is because they engage in and count on vote fraud.
And regarding the Voting Rights Act! For you to even suggest there is no longer racial discrimination show there’s a big disconnect between reality and your perception of reality. In my opinion these states with a past history of racial discrimination should have their feet held to the fire until past habits are changed. And with the current way things are going that’s going to take a long time.
What EXACTLY are they doing that is discriminatory? EXAMPLES?
And the supporting documentation needed is free as well, I'm sure.
Wow, you're really grasping at less than straws.
What supporting documentation? Like a birth certificate? Utility bill?
My, my, how did these poor people rent a house/apt, register to vote, open a bank account, collect a SS check or Food Stamps....before they were so unfairly asked to identify themselves before they vote?
With the US election participation already embarrassingly low, adding additional hurdles to participate in the process seems counterintuitive.
Of course, to the Left, participating in the process trumps PROTECTING the process from fraud and abuse.
(Incidentally, rolling out the "common sense" reasoning twice in 4 sentences or so doesn't make for a compelling argument.)
Neither do your "its so unfair and burdensome" for the poor voter to prove who they are arguments, even though they REQUIRE an ID for virtually every other transaction in their life.
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Nononono!
Washington instituting ID laws: Tyranny!
Austin instituting ID laws: Common sense.
State vs Federal...but you're not an American, are you? So maybe you're unaware of the structure of this nation.
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It doesn't mater if the overwhelming majority approve or not. These laws are on the wrong side of the constitution, plain and simple.
According to the ultimate arbiter, SCOTUS, they are NOT. Even the liberal justices on the court got behind the Indiana Voter Id Law ruling.
8.6% vs. 10.0% is actually closer to a 16% difference. You're mistaking percentage points for actual percentages. Common mistake, btw., so I won't assume there's intent to deceive.
Wow. Is this some kind of new liberal math? The difference between 8.6% and 10% is now 16%.
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Overall, he noted, 8.4% of the state's registered white voters lack photo ID, compared to 10% of nonwhite voters.
"HE" would be Holder.
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This is the yawning chasm the Justice Department is now using to justify the unprecedented federal intrusion into state election law, and the first denial of a "pre-clearance" Voting Rights request since 1994.
Wait a sec - didn't you just argue that there was no racial differences? Now it's racially motivated? Does not compute.
Everything Holder does or doesn't do boils down to RACE.
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