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View Poll Results: Do you feel it is correct to teach children that homosexuality is normal and natural?
Yes 292 50.34%
No 256 44.14%
I am unsure 32 5.52%
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Old 01-01-2012, 01:53 AM
 
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What is a complete myth? the part about many gays having been molested, and then become gay? No, that is NOT a myth!

I know two of them personally, and even my gay buds have shared about others, and it was common knowledge before it became Un-PC to talk of such things.

To be molested as a young child, and have it be so demoralizing and yet "physically, to have felt good" creates horrible turmoil inside the person--hating the attack and yet something about it being good, same time.

One girl I went to high school with, a beautiful gal was molested by a male ONE time and hated him with such a seething hate, hated all men, and told me with such a serious tone that she wouldn't even have a male dog or pet in her home, and her doberman was a female dog for this very reason.
Yes it's a myth. The studies support this.

And it's illogical as well.

Just because you claim to know 2 gay people who were sexually abused does not mean that most gay people were abused as children.

Many heterosexual people were sexually abused as children. Does that mean ALL were?
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Old 01-01-2012, 01:54 AM
 
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1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (NIV)

9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

The gays really don't have anything to worry about. If the above verse is true, virtually the entire human race is going to hell, as most things listed are acts most people are guilty of, no matter how big or how small (hence the term "wrongdoers"). According to most Christians I know, if gays confess their sins the same way every other person in the above mentioned groups do, they will be redeemed in the end.

People can quote Leviticus all they want. It seems silly to do so considering the context. It seems these types of dillemas are left to mankind and science to decipher. In the end, what does it really matter whether something is natural or not, unless someone is worried about where they will end up in the afterlife from a religious standpoint?
Homosexuality was not added to the above verse until 1958 AD when conservative publishers decided to attack gays. The original meaning referred to some type of economic exploitation like prostitution in the temples of the Greco-Roman pagans.

Of course, finding a Conservative who is actually smart enough to realize that is like finding a needle in a haystack. Without those verses, their hatred has no Biblical justification, so they will ALWAYS believe the lies they've been taught.
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Old 01-01-2012, 01:55 AM
 
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They even mentioned drunkards, but not women who have sex with women Seems the fuss about homosexuality has always been mostly about men... Um, maybe heaven is full of lesbian women, so all those suicide bombers have killed themselves in vain
Depends which translation you look at. Some expand that verse to "homosexuals" to include women. Of course, that's 100% proof of translator bias and fraud, since the original word can ONLY refer to men.
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Old 01-01-2012, 01:56 AM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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Do you feel that it is correct to teach children that homosexuality is normal and natural? Teachers, Parents... people with authority over children
I'm not going to read the 30+ pages here, mostly since everyone here knows how I feel about this topic already, but I will say that in school, NO WAY should it be taught, period, not even to say it's not normal (which would be my belief). It just doesn't need to come up, it's not something that needs to be discussed in sex ed class, if they even still have that. Sex ed is to make sure kids understand about pregnancy and STDs, not about what kinds of sex there are, positions, etc.

As far as parents are concerned, to each his own. I am not going to teach our child that being gay is natural or normal, but that is my right. If someone else wants to teach it, I don't really care as it has no bearing on me. As long as we are being taught not to treat someone differently due to their sexuality, such as not bullying, it's whatever.
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Old 01-01-2012, 01:58 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Depends which translation you look at. Some expand that verse to "homosexuals" to include women. Of course, that's 100% proof of translator bias and fraud, since the original word can ONLY refer to men.
More than likely the bible was just referring to male rapists, not homosexuals as many people understand the term today.
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Old 01-01-2012, 01:58 AM
 
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I do see this among girls. Its a fad to be a lesbian or bisexual. Not so much among the guys as there still is very much a homophobia among straight men. I see "acting gay" as a form of mockery of gays seems to be a fad among straight guys. Look at any guy's facebook page and you'll probably see pictures of this type of behavior. Makes me wonder why young straight guys care so much about gays to constantly be mocking them like they do.
Defense mechanism against their own same-sex attractions.

Homophobic Men Most Aroused by Gay Male Porn | Psychology Today
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Old 01-01-2012, 02:00 AM
 
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Acting like you are gay may be a fad, but homosexuality has been around for ages. That's why it's arguably mentioned in the bible and other historical books.
Same-sex activity has existed for all time. The idea that people could actually be exclusively attracted to members of the same-sex for their entire life was not discovered until the 19th Century. So yes, gays have always existed, however, people didn't know what being gay meant until relatively recently.
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Old 01-01-2012, 02:01 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I'm not going to read the 30+ pages here, mostly since everyone here knows how I feel about this topic already, but I will say that in school, NO WAY should it be taught, period, not even to say it's not normal (which would be my belief). It just doesn't need to come up, it's not something that needs to be discussed in sex ed class, if they even still have that. Sex ed is to make sure kids understand about pregnancy and STDs, not about what kinds of sex there are, positions, etc.

As far as parents are concerned, to each his own. I am not going to teach our child that being gay is natural or normal, but that is my right. If someone else wants to teach it, I don't really care as it has no bearing on me. As long as we are being taught not to treat someone differently due to their sexuality, such as not bullying, it's whatever.
I agree with you generally, but I think that when it comes to STIs there at least must be some discussion on sexuality. After all, some STIs are easier to contract by engaging in different sexual positions and partnerships.
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Old 01-01-2012, 02:02 AM
 
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Yes it's a myth. The studies support this.

And it's illogical as well.

Just because you claim to know 2 gay people who were sexually abused does not mean that most gay people were abused as children.

Many heterosexual people were sexually abused as children. Does that mean ALL were?
REALLY? a myth, you say?!

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Yeah, what ARE the ods?! it more than supports my claim and I just happened to find something that's rare?!
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Old 01-01-2012, 02:03 AM
 
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Agreed. The pee pee was not meant to go up the boo boo hole.
I guess God shouldn't have allowed internal stimulation of the prostate and areas around it to induce orgasm without every touching the penis then.

I wasn't aware defecation was supposed to induce orgasm, and yet, that would be the only other logical explanation for the sexual nerve endings in the rectum.
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