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Old 12-31-2011, 02:38 PM
 
Location: southwestern USA
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I dont define myself as liberal or conservative.

The one point, more than anything else that annoys me that any other, is the implication or isinuation that people who are liberal are unpatriotic and bent on the destruction of this fine republic.

How anybody can jump to this absurd and foolish conclusion is beyond logic----I guessthat is why they indeed jump to that conclusion----their clarity and vision is blocked by tainted idelogy.

Would it be too much to ask in 2012 that people in this country respect everybodys right to express a political opinion without being labeled an insurgent or political terrorist. I know this is not going to happen in the least----but I can dream that the majority of people will start to find a common goal and path to get our legislators to work for the common good of the country---nah not going to happen.

 
Old 12-31-2011, 03:19 PM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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Originally Posted by renault View Post
It seems like most Democrat progressive liberals hate America. Why is that?

Is it just to be different from the majority of Americans who are evil, bad, white, religious, conservatives? Is it because of their own inherent failures to succeed in the country of opportunity?

Is it Groupthink? An inability to reason since liberalism is a mental disorder?

It's very weird considering that most Democrats are trying to turn the exceptionalism of America into Euro-lite, even though many of them have never lived in or experienced Europe for any extended period, let alone visit on a few days' vacation time.

Why do they despise the country their families immigrated to and they were born into?

Democrats (and Liberals) Hate America

Who Says The Elites And Liberals Hate America? Oh, Wait! They Do
Rasmussen reports these poll results:
Conservatives overwhelmingly believe that the United States is the last best hope. However, by a 43% to 29% margin, liberals disagree.

Just 31% of those in the Political Class see the United States in such positive terms (see more on the Political Class), compared to 58% of Mainstream voters.

Polling released earlier shows that only 45% of Political Class voters believe the United States is a more positive force in the world than the United Nations. Seventy-nine percent (79%) of Mainstream voters see America as a more positive force.
Funny, I'm a liberal and I don't hate America. But go on thinking that I do. Guess it means I can say that Conservatives--who think liberals hate America--are fascists, because they are.
 
Old 12-31-2011, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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First liberals don't like the founding principles of America, of limited government and individualism. I don't mean this as a barb, but it is just true. When Madison says "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents," most liberals today would regard that as tantamount to hate speech and extremism of the highest order.

Second many liberals are well read in history and social sciences, and thus steeped in the idea that nationalism/jingoism is often BS and con artistry, little different from cult religions. Of course this is often correct but it engenders cynicism that makes love of country difficult.

In the final analysis I have to disagree with OP, though. I have run into many a liberal who loves America as much as I do. I remember listening to the late Mike Webb, gay lib radio talk show host who used to say something to the effect of 'I am the ultimate patriot.' Or Black civil rights activist Robert F. Williams who made simlar comments
 
Old 12-31-2011, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Why do people always have to assume liberals are Democrats?
 
Old 12-31-2011, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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First liberals don't like the founding principles of America, of limited government and individualism. I don't mean this as a barb, but it is just true. When Madison says "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents," most liberals today would regard that as tantamount to hate speech and extremism of the highest order.

Second many liberals are well read in history and social sciences, and thus steeped in the idea that nationalism/jingoism is often BS and con artistry, little different from cult religions. Of course this is often correct but it engenders cynicism that makes love of country difficult.

In the final analysis I have to disagree with OP, though. I have run into many a liberal who loves America as much as I do. I remember listening to the late Mike Webb, gay lib radio talk show host who used to say something to the effect of 'I am the ultimate patriot.' Or Black civil rights activist Robert F. Williams who made simlar comments
Another great post!

I suspect the military lesbians caught kissing recently love their country too. God Bless 'em.
 
Old 04-12-2012, 01:04 PM
 
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Default Top Ten Reasons Liberals Hate America

1) liberals hate God and Religion (except Islam, no surprise there)
2) liberals hate the US Constitution (The Liberal Interpretation of the Constitution Revealed!)
3) liberals hate American Exceptionalism
4) liberals hate the US military
5) liberals hate Capitalism and Free Markets
6) liberals hate the US As The World's Superpower
7) liberals hate Personal Achievement
8) liberals hate Diversity of Thoughts, Ideas, and Opinions
9) liberals hate Facts and Truth

10) Liberals, in fact, hate themselves most of all
 
Old 04-12-2012, 01:17 PM
 
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Liberals don't hate America, they just hate our freedom.
Like the freedom to marry who you love, amirite?


More popular catch phrases to use for your enemies!
Dirty Commies
Dirty Socialists
Dirty Liberals
Stupid democrafts

Also popular, Think of the children, they just want our jobs, class-warfare.

I guess I'd be a liberal by most of my political opinions, but saying anybody hates freedoms is just....silly.
 
Old 04-12-2012, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Originally Posted by renault View Post
It seems like most Democrat progressive liberals hate America. Why is that?
Because you've never bothered to actually pay attention.

To those who do, it doesn't seem that way.
 
Old 04-12-2012, 01:23 PM
 
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Originally Posted by renault View Post
1) liberals hate God and Religion (except Islam, no surprise there)
2) liberals hate the US Constitution (The Liberal Interpretation of the Constitution Revealed!)
3) liberals hate American Exceptionalism
4) liberals hate the US military
5) liberals hate Capitalism and Free Markets
6) liberals hate the US As The World's Superpower
7) liberals hate Personal Achievement
8) liberals hate Diversity of Thoughts, Ideas, and Opinions
9) liberals hate Facts and Truth

10) Liberals, in fact, hate themselves most of all
1) I hate the idea of one God or Religion influencing the government to the point where people's rights are infringed on.
2) Not sure where you were going with this, kinda baiting.
3) What is American Exceptionalism?
4) I hate spending more money on the US military on any other program by far, but love the men and women ready to give their lives.
5) I hate corruption in Capitalism and are happy about the STOCK act and similar acts that have passed.
6) I hate the US as the world's policeman.
7) I love achieveing things? Again not sure what that means.
8) I am fine with other cultures, ways of life, and differing opinions.
9) I like Science and Logic opposed to what media tells me.
10) Oh gawd, I hope I'm pretty enough.
 
Old 04-12-2012, 01:26 PM
 
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Originally Posted by renault View Post
It seems like most Democrat progressive liberals hate America. Why is that?

Is it just to be different from the majority of Americans who are evil, bad, white, religious, conservatives? Is it because of their own inherent failures to succeed in the country of opportunity?

Is it Groupthink? An inability to reason since liberalism is a mental disorder?

It's very weird considering that most Democrats are trying to turn the exceptionalism of America into Euro-lite, even though many of them have never lived in or experienced Europe for any extended period, let alone visit on a few days' vacation time.

Why do they despise the country their families immigrated to and they were born into?

Democrats (and Liberals) Hate America

Who Says The Elites And Liberals Hate America? Oh, Wait! They Do
Rasmussen reports these poll results:
Conservatives overwhelmingly believe that the United States is the last best hope. However, by a 43% to 29% margin, liberals disagree.

Just 31% of those in the Political Class see the United States in such positive terms (see more on the Political Class), compared to 58% of Mainstream voters.

Polling released earlier shows that only 45% of Political Class voters believe the United States is a more positive force in the world than the United Nations. Seventy-nine percent (79%) of Mainstream voters see America as a more positive force.
Liberals ... democrats or the left ... were hijacked by the radical communist back in the 50's and since then they have evolved into more of a Saul Alinsky type radicals who don't believe in capitalism or our government structure. They have been slowly poisoning our way of life in an effort to create change and transform our society and government. Obama thinks he can execute the final steps for this transition by collapsing our economy, creating major civil unrest and ultimately creating change in our government structure and elimination of our constitution.

Last edited by Vascodagama; 04-12-2012 at 01:45 PM..
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