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Old 01-01-2012, 03:38 PM
 
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So then according to you america is doomed and will fail anyway.
If the U.S. does not significantly change what it's doing regarding welfare and education, yes.
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So why put even in the effort?
There's still a chance that productive changes can be made. Some people have to pull their heads out of the sand first and start acknowledging the problems, though.
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Old 01-01-2012, 03:42 PM
 
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Sigh, my young, young, friend, you have lots to learn. The flight is to US bonds. Of course US debt is more stable than any European debt, due to their proximity to contagion of PIIGS.

You can claim the media lies, but the financial markets do not.

German Bonds Lose Their Allure - WSJ.com
Yeah its so stable that america nearly went bankrupt last summer. Very stable indeed. But keep believing the media. Who pays more for their debt Germany or USA? Who is AAA??? The latter. If the rating agencies wouldn't be so biased america really would be BBB. Nuff said. You have a lot to learn my old, old friend.
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Old 01-01-2012, 03:44 PM
 
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according to you there are just certain cultures in the U.S. that don't want to educate themselfs, they just want to breed.
Certain cultures? No. Certain socioeconomic levels? Yes. Odd that you're now insisting it's ethnic. You were shot down on racial bigotry, and now you're injecting ethnic bigotry. How low can you go?

And it's not according to me; it's according to U.S. Census facts.

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Old 01-01-2012, 03:45 PM
 
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I have no earthly idea what you are talking about.
Exhibit B: you actually cannot read ineed. Probably just listen to Rush.
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Old 01-01-2012, 03:46 PM
 
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Why is social upward mobility higher in Europe than in America?
Doesn't America think Europe is a bunch of Socialist with a bloated welfare state that doesn't get anything done?
Why is it easier in Europe to go from poor to the middle class than in America?
Isn't Free Market Capitalism supposed to be superior to Social Market Capitalism?

Social Immobility: Climbing The Economic Ladder Is Harder In The U.S. Than In Most European Countries
Because in America you have to actually work. In Europe the government does all the work. That's why Europe is eventually going to be one big failed experiment.
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Old 01-01-2012, 03:47 PM
 
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Certain cultures? No. Certain socioeconomic levels? Yes. Odd that you're now insisting it's ethnic. You were shot down on racial bigotry, and now you're injecting ethnic bigotry. How low can you go?

And it's not according to me; it's according to U.S. Census facts.

Data here: //www.city-data.com/forum/22262778-post11.html
The were always socioeconomic problems in the u.s. Suddenly after 50 years its a problem. Hmmm...... Who is the bigot racist? If it wouldn't be for liberals, blacks still weren't allowed to vote.
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Old 01-01-2012, 03:50 PM
 
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Because in America you have to actually work. In Europe the government does all the work. That's why Europe is eventually going to be one big failed experiment.
Very funny.
In Europe they give a lot of money back to the middle class through taxes.
In America they give away all the money to corporations.
But lets follow the business model of Brazil.
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Old 01-01-2012, 03:50 PM
 
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But Canada is a multicultural society none of the less. It doesn't matter if they have different immigration policies. Most of First World Countries only admit immigrants, if they contribute something valuable to society. For some reason in America there is not much focus on that.
You've just illustrated the very large difference between the quality of Canada's (and virtually every other country's) multiculturalism and the U.S's.

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I meant that you were implying that certain cultures or races receive education better than others. I don't think that is true. In fact we are all different. A white guy can be as education averse as a black guy.
I implied nothing of the sort, and I totally agree with the bolded statement. I have no idea how you got the idea otherwise. No one in this thread suggested that except YOU.
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Old 01-01-2012, 03:52 PM
 
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You've just illustrated the very large difference between the quality of Canada's (and virtually every other country's) multiculturalism and the U.S's.

I implied nothing of the sort, and I totally agree with the bolded statement. I have no idea how you got the idea otherwise. No one in this thread suggested that except YOU.
I suggested it because you brought up multiculturalism.
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Old 01-01-2012, 03:53 PM
 
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The were always socioeconomic problems in the u.s. Suddenly after 50 years its a problem.
You didn't read the education article I posted.

If you had read it, you'd realize what a fool you've just made of yourself.
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