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Old 01-02-2012, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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I stand corrected, with that being said that bill as well has show no signs of remotely being moved forward. Just one co-sponsor (Scott Brown) and was referred to committee almost three months ago as well with no action on it since.
I agree. I see absolutely nothing wrong with either bill, but as you said, it is not going anywhere. In fact, since this is now the beginning of a new session of Congress, we can say that both bills are officially dead. Of course they can be reintroduced in the new session, but as we both know, 95%+ of the bills introduced never become law.
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Old 01-03-2012, 12:21 AM
 
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You dont see anything wrong with 1540??

You must not be seeing what it really is bud!
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Old 01-03-2012, 06:10 AM
 
Location: Orlando
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I think it is time to clean house (and Senate) of these twits. We need laws to protect us from them. not them from us.
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Old 01-03-2012, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Fairfax County, VA
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This makes the NDAA look like child's play.
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Old 01-03-2012, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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You dont see anything wrong with 1540??

You must not be seeing what it really is bud!
1540? I was referring to H.R. 3166 and S. 1698. Both bills were consistent with laws of war as we have practiced them for the last several centuries. Specifically:
During times of war, POWs are held indefinitely (without being charged) until the end of the war. When the war is officially declared over (Congress repeals Public Law 107-40 in this case) the majority of the POWs are released back to their country of origin and a few face a military tribunal for "war crimes."
Both H.R. 3166 and S. 1698, as well as Section 1021 of the National Defense Appropriations Act, specifically state that the ONLY people who can be detained indefinitely are those who are members of al Qaeda and/or the Taliban, or those who have provided material assistance to either organization. In other words, only those people with whom we are currently at war can be detained indefinitely without being charged. It is not a blanket declaration of war against the American people like some idiots seem to think.
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Old 01-03-2012, 12:16 PM
 
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Oh ok,im sorry buddy.......

I thought you were referring to H.R. 1540

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-1...112s1867es.pdf

Search the doc for "detainee" and read sections 1031-1037

Its a clear violation of American citizen rights and the constitution!! (not that the government hasn't been violating that "piece of paper" for years CAUSE THEY HAVE!!)

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Old 01-03-2012, 01:20 PM
 
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1540? I was referring to H.R. 3166 and S. 1698. Both bills were consistent with laws of war as we have practiced them for the last several centuries. Specifically:
During times of war, POWs are held indefinitely (without being charged) until the end of the war. When the war is officially declared over (Congress repeals Public Law 107-40 in this case) the majority of the POWs are released back to their country of origin and a few face a military tribunal for "war crimes."
Both H.R. 3166 and S. 1698, as well as Section 1021 of the National Defense Appropriations Act, specifically state that the ONLY people who can be detained indefinitely are those who are members of al Qaeda and/or the Taliban, or those who have provided material assistance to either organization. In other words, only those people with whom we are currently at war can be detained indefinitely without being charged. It is not a blanket declaration of war against the American people like some idiots seem to think.
Ok so what happens when the government declares war against its citizens! I guess that could never happen riiiiiiiiighhhhht? LMAO!
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