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Old 01-04-2012, 10:27 AM
 
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The heck? Common Law goes back to at least the 11th century..
Ye Olde Commie Usurpers.
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Old 01-04-2012, 10:36 AM
 
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if that does happen then a HI issued COLB would be accepted.



they could but it would require a lot more evidence of fraud then the birthers have put forward to date. the plaintiff bares the burden of proof to demand such a request. none of the "evidence" or "experts" that the birthers have supported ( mostly thru WND ) would stand up in court.



there isn't a problem with the SS#. we know that numbers are issued based on zip code of application simply for clerical organization and have no relation to birth and/or residence.

96810 honolulu HI
06810 danbury CT

a common clerical typo of zero significance or a massive conspiracy involving all branches of government? you make the call.

altho now it appears that the president has been issued a new number ( most likely because of the birthers, orly in particular, posting the original number repeatedly on the web )
Why are you trying to prove something to me. Like I said, I really don't care. I was simply pointing out things other people are whining about. You are attempting to sway the wrong person. Please read my post carefully.
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Old 01-04-2012, 10:42 AM
 
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The heck? Common Law goes back to at least the 11th century. Sheesh.
This country wasn't even around in the 11th century! NEXT!
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Old 01-04-2012, 10:48 AM
 
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This country wasn't even around in the 11th century! NEXT!

ooof.
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Old 01-04-2012, 10:51 AM
 
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Who cares about what a bunch of rednecks in Georgia think? President Obama didn't need that sewer of a state in 2008 and he won't need it again in 2012! Keep giving us more "NEWTIES" to ammuse us.
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Old 01-04-2012, 10:52 AM
 
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Once again, much ado about nothing.

Let us see: if the term 'natural born citizen' means both parents must have been born in the US, then:

1. Thomas Jefferson was not qualified (mother born in England).
2. Chester Arthur and James Buchanan: both had a parent born in Ireland.
3. Andrew Jackson: both parents born in Ireland.
4. Herbert Hoover: mother born in Canada.
5. Woodrow Wilson: mother born in England.
6. Mitt Romney: father born in Mexico.
Both Parents just needed to be citizens, they don't need to be born here and anyone that was living in this county when it was founded could become president regardless of birthplace according to the constitution.
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Old 01-04-2012, 10:56 AM
 
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top constitutional expert Herb Titus, contend that the term “natural-born citizen,” which is not defined in the Constitution, would have been understood when the document was written to mean the offspring of two U.S. citizens. That argument is supported by a 19th-century U.S. Supreme Court decision
If carried to its logical conclusion, then no one is an American citizen:

the first people ever to arrive on this continent were from other continent, therefore they were not American citizens, therefore their offsprings were not American citizens, therefore everyone born after were not American citizens.

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Old 01-04-2012, 10:56 AM
 
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Both Parents just needed to be citizens, they don't need to be born here and anyone that was living in this county when it was founded could become president regardless of birthplace according to the constitution.
Yes and Obama's parents were not BOTH citizens!
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Old 01-04-2012, 10:58 AM
 
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Yes and Obama's parents were not BOTH citizens!
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Old 01-04-2012, 11:06 AM
 
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If carried to its logical conclusion, then no one is an American citizen:

the first people ever to arrive on this continent were from other continent, therefore they were not American citizens, therefore their offsprings were not American citizens, therefore everyone born after were not American citizens.




Its been posted in this thread already that according to the consatution any person that was living in this country at the time of its founding was considered legally "natural born" regardless of place of birth.
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