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View Poll Results: Should states have the power to outlaw oral and anal sex?
Yes 19 10.05%
No 169 89.42%
Not sure 1 0.53%
Voters: 189. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-05-2012, 03:17 PM
 
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Do you guys even read your own liks?



Take note of the highlighted text. He didn't neccessarily agree with the law itself, just the right of the state to vote one in!

This is once again, a horrible lie of the left. No where has Santorum said he wanted to ban birth control or sodomy. He said he thought the states have the right, if the PEOPLE agree (by voting), to impose whatever statutes the PEOPLE decide to! And he is correct!!

What exactly is so hard to understand about that? That is the way our government was set up to run... as individual states, much like individual countries, so that the people could "vote with their feet" on issues like gay marraige and birth control. It's much easier to move to another state, but moving to a completely different country is not so easy to do. That's why our votes matter about all of these various issues. If you don't like a law or bill your state has placed, you can try to change it or move!
Our government was never set up to allow the majority to deny rights to the minority. Sorry, we're not a direct democracy, never have been, were never designed to be. Gay marriage falls under rights that the majority has no business deciding, just like women's suffrage, interracial marriage, prayer in schools, etc.

And guess what. The Supreme Court ruled the majority does not have the right to tell other consenting adults what they do in their bedrooms.

And let's be real here. Santorum is extremely anti-gay, even claiming gays need to stop being gay. If sodomy laws only affected gay people, he would surely endorse it. But I don't think he's going to flat out say he endorses laws that interfere with his sex life. Santorum is very do as I say, not as I do, as evident by his wife's abortion situation and his views on it.
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Old 01-05-2012, 03:20 PM
 
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Do you guys even read your own liks?



Take note of the highlighted text. He didn't neccessarily agree with the law itself, just the right of the state to vote one in!

This is once again, a horrible lie of the left. No where has Santorum said he wanted to ban birth control or sodomy. He said he thought the states have the right, if the PEOPLE agree (by voting), to impose whatever statutes the PEOPLE decide to! And he is correct!!

What exactly is so hard to understand about that? That is the way our government was set up to run... as individual states, much like individual countries, so that the people could "vote with their feet" on issues like gay marraige and birth control. It's much easier to move to another state, but moving to a completely different country is not so easy to do. That's why our votes matter about all of these various issues. If you don't like a law or bill your state has placed, you can try to change it or move!
I understood what I posted entirely. What shocks me is that you and a few others believe that states should have a right to make oral sex illegal. How about if they make it a capital offense? Would you be okay with that too?
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Old 01-05-2012, 03:20 PM
 
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Rick Santorum: States Should Have Power To Ban Birth Control, Sodomy

Santorum obviously doesn't understand the meaning of freedom.
They already do have that power. Where is the difference, whether state politicians decide that birth control and sodomy are bad for, and ban their practice, or to decide that smoking is bad for you, and ban it?
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Old 01-05-2012, 03:21 PM
 
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Are you actually surprised at the yes crowd? The nasty anti-gay brigade who joins every gay thread to say what disgusting abominations they are. Or as I like to call the extremely anti-gay crowd, CCCA (Conservative Closet Cases of America).
The poll asks if states have the RIGHT to ban them, not do you believe they should be banned. I am 100% not anti-gay, but the states do and should have the right to vote in whatever laws the people want to vote in. Period. Has nothing to do with gay or straight.. and neither does the poll really, because heterosexual couples engage in those two acts as much if not more than gays.
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Old 01-05-2012, 03:22 PM
 
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They already do have that power. Where is the difference, whether state politicians decide that birth control and sodomy are bad for, and ban their practice, or to decide that smoking is bad for you, and ban it?
States don't have that power. The Supreme Court ruled in 2003 that all state laws banning sodomy were Unconstitutional.
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Old 01-05-2012, 03:23 PM
 
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I understood what I posted entirely. What shocks me is that you and a few others believe that states should have a right to make oral sex illegal. How about if they make it a capital offense? Would you be okay with that too?
That is up to the people in that state to decide. I seriously doubt this would actually happen, but if people want to live in a state with laws like that...
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Old 01-05-2012, 03:23 PM
 
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The reality is that most Americans, liberals most of all, support government regulation of sex.
That is false. It was conservatives who defended sodomy laws from being struck down by the US Supreme Court in 2003.
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Old 01-05-2012, 03:24 PM
 
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The poll asks if states have the RIGHT to ban them, not do you believe they should be banned. I am 100% not anti-gay, but the states do and should have the right to vote in whatever laws the people want to vote in. Period. Has nothing to do with gay or straight.. and neither does the poll really, because heterosexual couples engage in those two acts as much if not more than gays.
Well, States don't have the right. The Supreme Court already stated this.

I will also point out, you weren't listed in the poll when I made that statement. The people who were meet my description.

You are aware we are not a direct democracy right? The majority doesn't have the right to tell other people how to live.
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Old 01-05-2012, 03:25 PM
 
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That is up to the people in that state to decide. I seriously doubt this would actually happen, but if people want to live in a state with laws like that...
It's not up to the people. We're not a direct democracy.
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Old 01-05-2012, 03:25 PM
 
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It seems unlikely now but suppose a new STD were to emerge even worse than HIV. With ObamaCare now law of the land there would be great pressure to control costs by putting in "reasonable, common sense" regulations on oral and anal sex practices. And enforcement of the regs would "create jobs" don't cha know.
What an imagination. And incredibly, I bet a lot of today's Republicans would say you make a great point.
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