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Old 01-05-2012, 07:24 PM
 
Location: North America
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If the GOP would just get out of the way and let the Democratic party apply well known tactics to fix urban problems would crime in large cities drop dramatically?

And if so, has this plan worked anywhere?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_windows_theory

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A major factor in determining individual behavior is social norms, internalized rules about the appropriate way to act in a certain situation. Humans constantly monitor other people and their environment in order to determine what the correct norms are for the given situation. They also monitor others to make sure that the others act in an acceptable way. In other words, people do as others do and the group makes sure that the rules are followed. However, when there are no people around, as is often the case in an anonymous, urban environment, the monitoring of or by others does not work. In such an environment, criminals are much more likely to get away with robberies, thefts, and vandalism. When there are few or no other people around, individuals are forced to look for other clues—called signals—as to what the social norms allow them to do and how great is the risk of getting caught violating those norms. An ordered and clean environment sends the signal that this is a place which is monitored and people here conform to the common norms of non-criminal behavior; a disordered environment which is littered, vandalized, and not maintained sends the opposite signal: this is a place where people do as they please and get away with it without being detected. Therefore, as people tend to act the way they think others act, they are more likely to act "disorderly" in the disordered environment.
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Old 01-05-2012, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The broken windows theory worked in NYC under Rudy Guiliani (a Republican).
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Old 01-05-2012, 10:21 PM
 
Location: United State of Texas
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This is an absolutely stupid question.

Fierce adherence to the law and cracking a few heads is the ONLY effective way to slow down criminals. It's all these animals understand. I heartily support killing a lot of them in the process.
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Old 01-05-2012, 11:26 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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What a ignorant post if i ever saw one. Hate to break it to ya. But i do not think that your democratic party can get a handle on all of the crime that is out there.

Question guarantee me that their won't be any drug pushers, peddling drugs to school age chidlren. No more rapes going to happen, no more burlaries, no more home invasions, and no more murders of children and babies. Because the Democrats are going to stop this from happening.
And your dreaming, i know plenty of police, and i will be happy to tell them your opinion on this. may being democrats themselves. They will laugh.

Your never going to get a handle on any criminals in high urban areas. Unless you are there 24/7 to make sure there are not drug busts going down, no rapes occuring, no murders going on, no beating the wife, no car thefts, and no robberies. Your Democrats going to make sure we never see this stuff going on in high crime urban areas, i think not.
Who makes this stuff up anyways.

And the democrats have neve gotten themselves into any trouble right! never have they taken drugs right! and we know they would never think of cheating on a spouse right?
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Old 01-05-2012, 11:31 PM
 
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Democrats plan put all the criminals in the projects and hope they will be nice hasn't really worked out too well.
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Old 01-05-2012, 11:38 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Democrats plan put all the criminals in the projects and hope they will be nice hasn't really worked out too well.



Awwwwwwww that is what happened. Nahhhhhhhh don't think that is working well at all.
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Old 01-05-2012, 11:46 PM
 
Location: liberal paradise/conservative hell
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If the GOP would just get out of the way and let the Democratic party apply well known tactics to fix urban problems would crime in large cities drop dramatically?

And if so, has this plan worked anywhere?

Broken windows theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Your link does not make sense with your theory. GOP is the only one trying to monitor these folks. Dems want to throw money in the form of welfare and social programs at these people and expect them to change. It is just keeping the black/poor vote.
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Old 01-06-2012, 12:31 AM
 
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This is an absolutely stupid question.
Is it now? When urban LE needs Interdynamic KG-9's out of the hands of gangsters, or even suburban neighborhoods not wanting their police departments burdened with arms race competitions with criminals, republicans carry on with the NRA hysteria that democrats are out to take guns out of the hands of hill folk in bum f*ck nowhere. Heaven forbid anyone be inconvenienced before screening them for dementia or felonies.

This could be solved the same retaliatory way republicans solve their problems. Blue states should simply deport the charles mansons back over to red states where they came from. Chicago's biggest problems were always the imports from surrounding states emptying their jail houses by filling the greyhound buses with one way tickets. West Virginia doesn't care for the human refuse importing itself from Detroit peddling drugs to school kids & setting up meth houses either.

Would you rather go about things differently, or must things get ugly?
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Old 01-06-2012, 06:15 AM
 
Location: North America
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Democratic party solutions include Midnight Basketball Programs, Art Programs for At-Risk Youth and Cultural Heritage Awareness Programs.

This is what it seems that the voters in these high crime areas want as they re-elect democratic party politicians to leadership positions year after year.

Meanwhile, republicans (with their emphasis on law and policing) may never get a foothold in these communities.


I think the belief is that once these youth feel better about themselves they will commit less crimes.

Throwing them in prison for committing violent crimes will not help them (or so the story goes...)
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Old 01-06-2012, 06:50 AM
 
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Is it now? When urban LE needs Interdynamic KG-9's out of the hands of gangsters, or even suburban neighborhoods not wanting their police departments burdened with arms race competitions with criminals, republicans carry on with the NRA hysteria that democrats are out to take guns out of the hands of hill folk in bum f*ck nowhere. Heaven forbid anyone be inconvenienced before screening them for dementia or felonies.

This could be solved the same retaliatory way republicans solve their problems. Blue states should simply deport the charles mansons back over to red states where they came from. Chicago's biggest problems were always the imports from surrounding states emptying their jail houses by filling the greyhound buses with one way tickets. West Virginia doesn't care for the human refuse importing itself from Detroit peddling drugs to school kids & setting up meth houses either.

Would you rather go about things differently, or must things get ugly?
What the Hell are you talking about?
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