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All we will see all year are how great everything is by Obama and his propoganda outlet the MSM. 8% unemployment will be hailed as a great achievement. Stimulous? What is that? Anybody remember that? Nope.
All of this but you havent yet responded to posting 88, showing we have actual job losses, how odd. (edit, Suncc49 reposted it right below #106 for your review)
I have a life beyond going through everybody's babble.
Besides an honest argument wouldn't be fixated on a snapshot. Why not do the math over a long term, for a perspective? It is my approach, and I prefer to investigate posts that do the same.
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Furthermore, this is absolutely no reason to look at ONE month loss and pretend its a pattern or a fair representation. But thats exactly what YOU are doing.
Then why are you in this thread? This thread specifically mentions jobs added in a month. As for me, I'm here to discuss just that.
The stimulus took money out of the economy? You mean the money that the Fed created was taken from somewhere other than a computer program? If so, where was that money taken from?
Where do you think the money came from to spend it? It wasnt created out of thin air. Hint, they sold bonds to pay the debt, thus money wasnt available to invest.
The Fed money created using a computer program, never entered the economy, the stimulus did. Not even close to the same
I have a life beyond going through everybody's babble.
Besides an honest argument wouldn't be fixated on a snapshot. Why not do the math over a long term, for a perspective? It is my approach, and I prefer to investigate posts that do the same.
What this means is you choose to ignore postings which show things other than you believe.
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Then why are you in this thread? This thread specifically mentions jobs added in a month. As for me, I'm here to discuss just that.
No you arent, you are here to bash Bush, rather than discuss the figures posted, you just admitted that above by ignoring the "babble" and looking at the "long term"
Ok, lets look at the long term, how many jobs have been lost since Obama was sworn into office?
All we will see all year are how great everything is by Obama and his propoganda outlet the MSM. 8% unemployment will be hailed as a great achievement. Stimulous? What is that? Anybody remember that? Nope.
It would have been worse without Bush/Obama stimulus programs. I didn't support them, but I admit it would have been worse if the finance sector had been allowed to collapse, which would have left other industries without funding.
At the beginning of 2009 there were about 180k troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.
At the beginning of 2012 there are about 100k troops in Afghanistan.
afhanistan, iraq libya israel the straits.
yes expansion not contaction, when we pulled out we left mercenaries there to protect those 16,000 americans not iraqi forces. who do u think pays for this?
look at the price tag for blackwater or Xe or whatever contactor we hire vs regular military we never left anywhere.
we are expanding not contacting.
afhanistan, iraq libya israel the straits.
yes expansion not contaction, when we pulled out we left mercenaries there to protect those 16,000 americans not iraqi forces. who do u think pays for this?
look at the price tag for blackwater or Xe or whatever contactor we hire vs regular military we never left anywhere.
we are expanding not contacting.
One thing that helped December's numbers is the nba's late start. The NBA added a few really high paying jobs. The 28 US arenas employ roughly 700-1000 people on game night.
The local bars and restaurants probably increased their hiring. The NBA is very important to the economic health of cities like Sacramento, San Antonio and Portland.
It would have been worse without Bush/Obama stimulus programs. I didn't support them, but I admit it would have been worse if the finance sector had been allowed to collapse, which would have left other industries without funding.
Bush had nothing to do with the stimulus program. TARP wasnt a stimulus, it was a bailout of the US Govt, not the businesses as the government claimed
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